Bernard Hopkins - Realism

Hopkins never sucked, but he is very overrated. He has never beaten an A level fighter at his natural weight.

His best wins
Tito: Career welterweight (albeit a big one). 1 career fight at 160 against ****ing William Joppy before Hopkins beat him. i do say this though, Hopkins was a huge underdog.

Oscar: Career welterweight. 1 fight at 160 before the Hopkins fight, and he looked like **** getting clearly outboxed by Sturm...and Oscar was actually winning early on.

Tarver: Hopkins completely outclassed him, but Tarver was never A level. Got outboxed by Eric Harding. Was getting outboxed again before he KO'd him in the rematch. Went 1-1 vs Glen Johnson. His only claim to fame is KO'ing Roy Jones(in what was a near perfect shot. He gets full credit for that KO from me)

Winky: Career 154 lb fighter 2 fights above 154, and he fought him at 170....and Winky was very much in the fight. Great name, but the weight takes away much of the luster.

Pavlik: Career 160 lb fighter. Never had A level talent anyway. (Again, Hopkins was an underdog, and he gets credit for exposing a limited B level fighter)

Another reason he gets a ton of hate, is because he fights so dirty and negatively.

 

If we go by tapes and fights. Prime Hopkins gives any fighter difficulties, and would beat many.

But some want to only go by boxrec.

 

Pretty much sums him up ..

 

Dude, how do you leave out Glen Johnson?

 

Fighters with the physical attributes AND ring IQ will always beat him. He is not varied enough, and his game plan of dirty fighting gets neutralized( Dawson's right hook took away his run in with right hand and grab strategy)

 

Glen Johnson is a C level talent. I have never rated him highly.

 

I totally agree with you. After all, there is a reason why Hopkins never lost during his prime, and dominated the Middleweight division for a full decade, from 1995-2004.

 

hopkins is an all time great who acquited himself well against an elite fighter last night. overrated? sure.

 

Hopkins was in his prime when he fought RJJ the first time and he lost that fight.
So he did lose in his prime

 

Prime Roy handled B-Hop easily.

 

That is him as a LHW.

Even at LHW he is holding his own.

 

Hopkins still lost to RJJ when he was in his late 20's, that aint green Hopkins was at his physical best years. Hopkins mastered the craft later on during his reign though, and rematch with RJJ would have been alot closer.

 

and you read what I said above.