Bernard Hopkins vs. Chad Dawson & undercard RBR

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Another page or two (which could easily happen if the debate rages on until morning...although it's almost bedtime for me personally...) and it will surpass Marquez-Diaz II.

    In all honesty it is already the longest, since Marquez-Diaz II was several pages long before being converted into a RBR thread so its #1 status has an asterisk next to it.
     
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  2. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Yeah, could you have done any of that tonight. :lol:
     
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  3. Brand

    Brand Active Member Full Member

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    should be no contest though I think Hopkins probably was faking the injury
     
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  4. watcher

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    That makes no sense. You saw my post count and figured I'm an alt? What's the point of an alternate account that doesn't post? LOL Did you see my join date?

    About that other Takedown: CLottey tries to get by/jump over Cotto. Cotto doesn't get below Clottey. He just stands there innocently when the other one climbs on him, so he's justified in pushing him off.
     
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  5. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol: Honestly didn't see your join date but that could be an alt account for somone when they get banned, hence the small post count.. but that' not the issue, don't really care...

    So it's okay to push someone off as long as you arn't ducking?
     
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  6. watcher

    watcher Active Member Full Member

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    It's surely ok to push someone off you.
    But it's not ok to get under someone on purpose and then lift him and throw him to the ground.
     
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  7. crosseyed

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    Does anyone think that could have been scored a KD at 1:32 of the second round?

    Dawson was a little off balance, but Bernard lands a right hand and Dawson's hand hits the canvas.

    Obviously doesn't mean much, but still, I think it could'be been called.
     
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  8. crosseyed

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    "And that's a tackle by Chad Dawson, he picked Hopkins up and threw him down."

    That's how it was called by Lampley.

    Look, it stinks, but that's a no contest.
     
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  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Nobody lifted anybody. Dawson did not "get under" Hopkins. Hopkins "got over" him. Dawson pushed him off. Not down. Off.

    Even this bogus article, which makes the same absurd claim you do regarding Dawson "lifting" and "tossing" Hopkins to the canvas - can't even support its own allegations with its own hand-picked freeze-frame of the action. Dawson is hunched over, in the same position he was in from ducking the right hand. It's Hopkins who climbed up over him. Dawson did nothing to cause himself to be under Hopkins, except duck straight down with his body bent over in a defensive ducking posture underneath where Hopkins wound up. Look at the positioning of Dawson's right arm from this very angle, CHOSEN by the people who in this article claim he "tossed" Hopkins. How, with no leverage and no hold of Hopkins whatsoever, is he going to "lift and toss" a 175 lb man to the canvas from his position at the exact moment of this frame?

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    (and :lol: :lol: @ "TK-WHOA!" :patsch)
     
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  10. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Oh. Lampley said it? Gospel.
     
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  11. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dawson didn't lift him, and if he went forward it was very minimal.
     
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  12. crosseyed

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    You really don't see any lift to what Chad did?

    You didn't see him hook Hopkins leg with his left hand?

    That's what I saw.

    That's what it sounds like everyone ringside saw.
     
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  13. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    bhop is a pouf, he has always been a bitchass.
     
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  14. watcher

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    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-GpfC1kbv6Bw/TppcBV_CPCI/AAAAAAAAFmI/m4R8gPrmLbQ/s1600/1.gif

    Look at the top-down view. Look how far below the red "E" Dawsons head gets when he's in his ducking motion. Then watch his head align with the Bottom of the "E" when the impact occurs. Then watch it get past the top of the "E" in his pushing motion.
    The impact of this forward surge caused Hopkins to double over and fall on top of Chad. Had Chad not attempted to rugby-tackle Bernard, he still would have stumbled over him, but the "climb on top" would have been a lot less pronounced.
    Had Chad not ducked below the belt line in the first place, they would merely have gotten in a clinch, the likes of which 200 happen every match.
     
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  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Here, let me help you embed that:

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    His head doesn't move up past the E until well after Hopkins is draped over his back. When he performs the shrug, thrusting his right shoulder out to send Hopkins sliding off, that's when his head goes above the red E in the Tecate logo from the top-down view. The climb on top was already completed, and can't have been exacerbated by this supposed "rugby tackle", when Dawson didn't even begin any forward motion (which was all shoulder, btw - he clearly did not use his arms to "lift" or "toss" anyone) until after Hopkins had already reached his furthermost and highest peak of his forward/upward momentum.
     
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