Bernard Hopkins vs Hagler opposition

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  1. heizenberg

    heizenberg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How do you guys think Hopkins would've done had he been in Hagler's place and had to the defend his middleweight title against the same fighters Hagler defended against? Do you think he would've been able to get through all the tough challengers Hagler faced and if not who do you think would've been the one to defeat him? Do you think Hopkins would've been able to beat Leonard had he been in Hagler's shoes that night?
     
  2. stevo1966

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    I don't think he would have beaten Leonard and I believe Hearns would have stopped him.
     
  3. jas

    jas ★ Legends: B-HOP ; PAC ★ Full Member

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    I honestly believe a prime hopkins is unknockoutable.
     
  4. SILVER SKULL 66

    SILVER SKULL 66 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think Hopkins would have been very competitive with the guys Hagler faced..

    Hopkins would have won a UD against Duran..

    Leonard would have won a UD against Hopkins..

    And i think Hopkins would have KOD Hearns late, Hearns didn't have Leonards physical strength, endurance, legs, and chin..
     
  5. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    what about the tough nuts hagler faced.
     
  6. Brixton Bomber

    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    EVERYBODY can be KO'ed.

    Mugabi/Hopkins would be a fight I'd like to see.
     
  7. jas

    jas ★ Legends: B-HOP ; PAC ★ Full Member

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    thanks for writing some rhetoric. knew a smart ass would do it
     
  8. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    NOBODY is unknockoutable.

    Fact.

    :deal
     
  9. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    an interesting question. the answer is: Not as well

    vs Obel 1, X passes the first time on points due to Obel's inexperience

    get's past Vito

    Hamsho takes it from him in his third defense, on points of course

    vs Lee we can all agree X is safe here

    however in a rematch with Obel I think he is not so safe as I can see the obvious: Obel is a vastly improved fighter, at least by 40% an takes out X with a series of deadly right hand uppercuts he cannot avoid. Obel by KO in five

    vs Sibson, X will last the distance but be overrun. Sibson too strong, too determined, & too energetic

    vs Scypion, I believe X's chances are quite good and prevails by UD

    Vs Duran I think is safe here too but not totally unscathed. X on points

    Vs Roldan, X is in very dangerous waters and is brutalized , broken, and eventually converted to scrap by round 10

    Vs Hamsho. This is a very old and worn Hamsho, not going anywhere. I think Hop's chances are good now

    Vs Hearns. Never has hearns been better, stronger, faster, or more dangerous. Hops falls prey to a rebounding Hitman whose rise cannot be stopped, by the blitzkreig that his Tommy's fists. Hopkins will not fall but the ref intervenes due to severe facial lacerations

    Vs Mugabi. I give Hopkins a 50-50 chance here

    vs Rey Leonard. too close to call. X cant hurt Sugar but is Sugar too slick N too quick for him? a tossup
     
  10. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Hopkins has everything that Hagler had with an extra three and a half inches of height. He's basically a light-heavyweight who managed to cut down to middleweight for years. He's bigger than Ezzard Charles and Archie Moore. I can't see him having problems with anyone but Leonard and Hearns. Anybody know if he rehydrated over 160 back in his middleweight years? Hagler is the same size as other middleweight champions and fought in the era of same day weigh ins.
     
  11. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    he sure didnt have his power. he didnt have his smarts. nor did he have his tenacity. In short, X just wasnt as effective. In Hagler's day, those with superior offensive output wouldve had his number. Even Animal Fletcher (1982) wouldve probably outlated him.

    Bernard had the skills, the chin, durability, & stamina, but then so did the contenders of Hagler's day, but with more power
     
  12. jas

    jas ★ Legends: B-HOP ; PAC ★ Full Member

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    another smart ass :bart :lol:
     
  13. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hagler had the far harder opposition and I could see him getting beat by the Hagler opposition. B-Hop fought his best fights north of 160 at an advanced age
     
  14. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Naw.

    Just highlighting a major error in your earlier statement.

    It's a fact, man.

    Foreman, Duran, Randy Cobb, Mike Tyson... etc.

    They were all KO'd.


    And anybody that wasn't COULD have been.

    Simple physics and physiology.
     
  15. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree Hagler's level of title comp was definitely better...But to me, when comparing Hopkins straight up Hagler's competition, I would pick Hopkins to win...So much better from technical aspects of the sport...Hopkins might not end some of the fights as spectacularly as Hagler did...but he would grind it out...and also Hopkins is proving that he has that type of longevity right now. It isn't an accident that he is still competing nowadays. One of the most fundamentally sound and dedicated fighters in history.