Bernard Hopkins vs John Ruiz

Definitely! Look at all the dirty tactics that he's using to win!

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Jeez, at least get your facts right. That fraud Ruiz didn't stop Holyfield in their second fight! He got another of his many disputed decisions!

He faked a low blow in the 8th round to avoid getting counted out after hit with a body should - as he should have - and would have been, if one of Don King's handpicked refs hadn't let him ham-act his way into a time out!! And then, of course, King got him the decision.

 

If not given his usual favorable treat from a referee, John Ruiz may have struggled in a bout with the much smaller Bernard Hopkins. In previous posts on boxing message boards, I wrote that someone with Ruiz's fighting style does not belong in a boxing ring. After warning Ruiz for using his usual fighting tactics several times, a referee should disqualify him.

- Chuck Johnston

 

Ruiz ia a weak HW champ, so it might be possible.

That said, Bhop's style relies on locking up his opposition at times, outwitting them with dirt and devilry. Doing that to a HW is going to cost him more than usual on the break and inside. Hes going to get thrown around the ring at times. It will be the worst beating he ever got except vs from the tkoval8ter..but he might well still pull it off by a whisker.

Hopkins is a master of such tactics.

 

Actually I was talking about James Toney stopping Holyfield

 

Toney is light-years better than Ruiz, in fact, he beat Ruiz in the ring. As would Hopkins have done, IF Ruiz was forced to fight WITHIN the rules.

Ruiz is a complete fraud, of the worst kind. People talk about Holyfield or Hopkins using dirty tactics - and they did at times. But not to the extent that Ruiz did.

And unlike Ruiz, they used them to supplement their world class skills. Ruiz used illegal tactics to make up for the fact that he had all the skill of a high grade clubfighter, and would otherwise have lost every fight he had at the world class level, most of them probably by KO. And his connections with King allowed him to get away with it.

 

Ruiz had no power whatsoever.
He must have hit this Anis fellow below the belt.

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James is also better than Hopkins, at least at heavyweight. I think Hopkins would struggle more with Ruiz as he does not have the chin or slickness of Toney.

 

You are right if you talk about Hopkins late career, say from 2003/2004 onwards but if you look at him in his prime he normally did not need to fight dirty, instead he relied on ring generalship and footwork/positioning/movement, he also was a lot busier, threw more combinations and was less reliant on his right-hand lead.

 

Hopkins could only have fought Ruiz in his late career.He would not be able to rough Ruiz up on the inside.

 

yes thats true, half tank old hopkins had to incorporate a plethora of dirty tactics to maintain credible semblance of being competitive at the top level.

 

Why? Hopkins vs. Ruiz around 2002 would be very plausible.

 

Not realistic in my opinion. In 2002 Hopkins was a middleweight. In 2003, Hopkins refused to move up to cruiserweight to face Toney. He only moved up to ligh heavy in 2006.

 

Ruiz mauls and hugs to earn a draw.