Bernard Hopkins vs John Ruiz

But of course Mohamed Ali's holding behind the head and constant clinching with which he won dozens of fights he would have otherwise lost were not dirty tactics because they supplemented his world class skills. And of course Holyfield's dirty elbows and head buts were OK because they supplemented his world class skills.

Your bias is so obvious that it is pitifully ridiculous.

The sad part about that kind of skewered mentality is that it doesn't remain circumscribed to boxing but is indicative of how a person views and treats others in general as opposed on how he views his own preferential groups. It's similar to how any native American victory over the US army was tagged an unfair massacre while any victory of the USA cavalry over the Indians was described as a glorious victory regardless of the dirty methods they used to attain it or whom among the Indians, such as helpless women children or the aged, were involved.

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Your premise that a person's boxing skills justifies his dirty tactics is seriously flawed. Does Horn's skills justify his dirty tactics against Pac? If indeed they don't then why should Ali's skills justify his holding Frazier behind the neck and wrestling him?

 

Hopkins. decision, of course.

Same thing with Ruiz---against the smaller guys he fights stupid. Ringsmarts come into play bigtime. He comes in thinking he's a big ko artist and those guys will fold up the first time he hits them. Of course it doesn't happen and these type guys land a ton of quick combos on him to score the points & counter him all night.

So what it boils down to is once again, Ruiz shows up with his B game. And his A game isn't much. B game? And on the other side, a guy like Hopkins dedicates himself a ton and comes in razor sharp. And gets the W.

 

Ruiz was a guy a lot of lesser weight guys could beat. he was not a huge puncher and Roy didn't beat Lennox. he couldn't have.

 

Here are two interesting fights:

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That's all common knowledge. The fighters knew that going into the fight with the guy. The best attribute Ruiz had was his affiliation with DKP. Imagine that career w/o that factor and many of those things become dq losses.

 

If that is the case then Bernard would be best suited by staying in the 190's

 

Totally out hustled Rahman!

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Ruiz was terrible, he wouldn't have won any title fights if his fights were reffed/judged on the level.

 

Wishful thinking.

 

Commonly proposed among certain people is a better description I think.

 

Why not? He had the agility and boxing skills to evade heavy punches and out box anybody at that stage of his career. Marciano weighed far less than Roy did at HW and is considered by many the greatest HW champ in boxing history and quite capable of taking on today's lumbering heavies.

Seems as if your need to downplay Jones is related to your irresistable need to denigrate Ruiz.

 

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Since I consider you a troll I will place you on my ignore!

 

Go ahead, I couldn't care less

 

Good! Drivel on!

 

radrook is John Ruiz