Bernard Hopkins- You are the man !

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  1. Jack Presscot

    Jack Presscot Boxing Addict Full Member

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    OK, lets go over a few things here.

    If young Taylor dominated his overrated ass TWICE, A prime Thomas Hearns, after eating a cheeseburger would have killed his Cream of Wheat man looking ass. Heanrs went toe to toe with Hagler baby, Hopkins would have showed his true colors against Hagler and ran like a little *****, like his BAWSS did against Trinidad.

    When Hopkins was 30, he was the same ****ing fighter he is now, except he didnt fight anyone then. Except Morrade Hakkar and William Joppy.

    Duran at middle? You gotta be kidding. Duran was too slick and too crafty for Hopkins. Duran went the distance with HAGLER who was Light Years ahead of Cream of Wheat man Hopkins, as far as skills, heart and guts. Duran KO's Bernard's scared, running man ass, in 11.

    Hagler would have belched his direction and knocked him down.
     
  2. gilad

    gilad Active Member Full Member

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    Man, you really are a hater. If you think Duran, whose best weight was clearly 135, beats B-hop, who was the 175 champion, Then I want to smoke what you smoke... Duran is a better fighter than Hopkins, but he has no chance in hell in a head to head fight at 160 or higher.
     
  3. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  4. PopeJackson

    PopeJackson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bernard is my favorite currently active fighter. I think he can beat Pavlik, which will be very impressive 'cause he is old as ****.
     
  5. Jack Presscot

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    Duran took on Hagler, and Hopkins couldnt carry the threads off of the jockstrap of Hagler as a middleweight. About the only intelligent thing you have said since getting Borenard's junk out of your piehole is "Duran is a better fighter than Hopkins" Thats the ****ing understatement of the 21st Century. :good :hi: :smoke
     
  6. Jack Presscot

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    How old was he when he posed for the cover of the Cream of Wheat box? He smiles like that every morning before he serves Oscar de la Hoya and Richard Schaefer breakfast.
     
  7. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I honestly think that the reason why Hopkins is willing to take on these fighters besides from the obvious factor of heart/courage is that he feels that he's the superior fighter. He said the same thing before his second Taylor fight, Tarver fight, Winky fight, and Calzaghe fight. And i'm SURE, in the interviews leading up to this fight, he will say this again. He will say something like, "Because i'm the better fighter, plain and simple."

    He really feels like in a 12 round boxing match, he will outbox you and make it his type of fight. He won't get hit flush and he will land flush. I sometimes think that he doesn't even think about winning rounds but just tries to outbox a guy over 12 rounds. So his mentality isn't a round by round basis but the overall work of the fight. And i think that can be a mistake at times because fights are scored every round. And if you go by this thinking, it's easy to see him beating Taylor twice and Calzaghe.
     
  8. smoochp

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    Even though I don't like Hopkins style. Yes is a brave fighter and might have the second best resume in boxing behind Oscar.
     
  9. Jack Presscot

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    I honestly think it's money. He is a greedy pile of garbage, who only fights for money. His heart and courage are questionable, as he seems deathly afraid of standing and trading a la Hagler-Hearns. Otherwise we would have seen that against Taylor and Calzaghe, two men who he both calls "Daddy"

    He is also a disillusional Egotistical Blowhart, who is full of himself. He actually thinks he is special for beating a list of jobbers from the 90's like Morrade Hakkar and Robert Allen, and for defeating the welterweights Oscar, Tito and former 154 pounder Winky. He must have jacked off all over himself when he beat up a bloated Tarver for the RING belt, but luckily, our hero Joe Calzaghhe relieved his ass of that. He is not "The better fighter, plain and simple" as he thinks. Jermain Taylor proved that to his overrated ass, twice.

    In a 12 rounnd match, he will beat lesser, or smaller opposition who allow themselves to be intimidated. But like Mike Tyson, he has problems when he, the bully, gets bullied. Thats why Young Taylor was able to embarrass him TWICE and why he punked out of a fight against James Toney.
     
  10. Jack

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    Jones dominated Hopkins.


    1. Muhammad Ali
    2. Henry Armstrong
    3. Harry Greb
    4. Joe Louis
    5. Carlos Monzon
    6. Bob Fitzsimmons
    7. Sugar Ray Robinson
    8. Sugar Ray Leonard
    9. Roberto Duran
    10. Oscar De La Hoya
    11. Lennox Lewis
    12. Mike Tyson
    13. Eder Jofre
    14. Aaron Pryor
    15. Marvin Hagler
    16. Benny Leonard
    17. Roy Jones Jr.
    18. Ricardo Lopez
    19. Julio Cesar Chavez
    20. Pernell Whitaker
    21. Wilfred Benitez
    22. Thomas Hearns
    23. Ike Williams
    24. Gene Tunney
    25. Willie Pep
    26. Archie Moore
    27. Alexis Arguello
    28. Evander Holyfield
    29. Jose Napoles
    30. Mickey Walker

    Every single one of those fighters above were either better or had a better resume than Hopkins. In most cases, both. Hopkins does not have a more impressive resume than one of those 30 fighters.

    Again, the question I always ask is, has Hopkins ever beaten a great fighter in their prime?
    You "musta forgot" that Hopkins is 0-4 against the four greatest fighters he ever fought.
     
  11. gilad

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    Yeah right 0-4. That's because the industry loves him so much and gives him all the decisions. His only real lose is Jones, He beat Taylor at least once, and the second fight is at worse a draw. The Calzaghe fight is debatable.

    Man, some guys in your list you can argue for but to say guys like Oscar de la Hoya (who for real lost every big fight he ever had, and got knocked out by B-hop), Lennox Lewis (knocked out by two journeymen) and Mike Tayson (most overrated heavyweight ever) are better fighters than Hopkins is nonsence. You are a hater and know nothing about boxing, if you don't understand the greatness of Bernard Hopkins. The man had to take most of his big fights after 40, because when he was at his prime (32-36) nobody wanted to get near him, including the jawless Roy Jones Jr.
     
  12. Jack

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    It doesn't matter what you think. The fact is, Hopkins lost those four fights and, coincidentally, they were th best four fighters he ever faced.

    Anyone who rates Hopkins in the top ten all-time is having a ****ing laugh anyway.

    I think JCC or Whitaker would qualify as big fights.

    Both were avenged. And they were footnotes in a thoroughly legendary career. Unlike Hopkins, he beat fighters who rank somewhere significant all-time.

    Mike Tyson was technically superior to Hopkins and beat better fighters. During his prime, he may have been the greatest heavyweight to step foot in a ring.

    I know nothing about boxing? Pull the other one, fella. As for being a hater? Not true at all. I was a big Hopkins fan and he was one of the fighters who got me interested in the sport again after a short break. However, I can see through his career.

    Hopkins priced himself out a fight with Jones.


    Let me ask you a question. Has Hopkins ever beaten a great fighter in their prime?
     
  13. Jack Presscot

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    Jones beat his ass then, and will beat his ass now.
     
  14. Scar

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    Trinidad was in his prime and he's a great fighter.
     
  15. Jack Presscot

    Jack Presscot Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Trinidad sure was, at welterweight, and he primed in 1999.