Bernard 'The Executioner' Hopkins vs 'Hands Of Stone' Roberto Duran

Yes, but (if you were reffering to my post) he would not be completelly outclassed like Trinidad. He'd struggle to win even a few rounds, but I don't see him being thoroughly outclassed by Hopkins.

 

As an aside, i do think stylistically Duran could edge Toney at this weight if he fought like he did against Hagler.

That would be much better matchup for him than anyone with a good set of legs.

 

Agreed 100%.

 

You think Duran beats Toney at long range?. While Toney did like to fight up close, his long range work gets overlooked. He worked pretty well at long range against McCallum in their first fight. McCallum used his jab often against Toney, the same can't be said about Duran against Hagler. He was throwing it sparingly with no much behind it. His right hand lead was his dangerous weapon against Hagler.

I think the Duran who fought Barkley would be the one to match against Toney. He was busier and mixed it up inside and outside.

 

I think Toney probably edges the fight if he's on McCallum one form.A lot of his other performances like the rematch, or Johnson fight might not be good enough.

BEst on best fantasy fight i'd bet on Toney, but if they had been around at the same time i wouldn't have been surprised if Duran could have upset him.

 

The Duran who faced Hagler was no doubt the better version overall. Younger, better shape, quicker, etc. He was definitely capable of implying a different style, and a more versatile one, on a less efficient fighter like Toney. He tailored his gameplan to suit his best interests against Hagler, against Toney he'd have done the same. I do think he'd have been able to fight on even terms with Toney from any range though.

 

I think a bunch of people on this forum forgets that styles makes fights. I didn't see any difference in Duran when he fought Leonard the first time or the second time. Same with the Duran that fought Hagler. Both Leonard and Hagler made both of these fights hard for them, so i really don't know why people say that ''Montreal Duran was such a monster''. Look at what happened in the rematch which was only five months later, he beat Duran because he used his ability and boxed. I know that a bunch a fan boys are going to say that'' oh he was out of shape and over the hill by that point'' and of course I'll laugh, because it was only months later. Be serious. That's like saying Jones was shot when he fought Tarver the second time, even though he beat Tarver the first time. Hagler tried to box with Duran instead of bringing the pressure early the way he did with Hearns so he too made the fight difficult.

For the topic, Hopkins would use his natural size advantages to out muscle Duran by a reasonably close decision. Hes simply too big.

 

Competative for a few rounds, yes, but he´s just not big enough to have a real chance in here. Against DLH he wanted to prove he can beat him without using his size advantage. It worked but not as good as he thought it would.

 

No difference between Montreal and New Orleans Duran? wtf? Duran was in absolutly peak shape mentally and physically in Montreal but was far from it in New Orleans. That´s so obvious I just don´t get how anybody can´t see that.

 

Just stop. Seriously.

 

No difference at all. You could not convince me that FIVE months would make any difference at all. He is a professional that was not only entering the second biggest fight of his life but was still in his prime years. I seen the same Duran, it was Leonard that made his tactical adjustments the second time out, not what Duran did, and what convinces me is that the rematch was actually somewhat close. Do you really think that Leonard would have fought to a close fight with an out of shape Duran? I just don't buy into it. Fans come up with this stuff to make Duran not look bad and to take away what Leonard did. I think Ray had a lot to do with Duran looking sluggish.

Duran is great and there is no question about it, but i am just not going to believe that a guy who beat a peaking Ray Leonard five months prior is all of a sudden out of shape and over the hill. Its complete BS. Ray boxed, utilized his jab and controlled space this time, instead of being frustrated and banging with Duran, which was mainly due to him getting to his head and ripping on his family.

 

You also believe in Santa, right?

 

Of course YOU believe in Santa, especially if you seriously think that Duran was all of a sudden out of shape and ''mentally not prepared'' when he fought Leonard in the rematch. You should really watch BOTH fighters when analyzing a fight. Only watching one won't do you any good. I seen Leonard box beautifully the second time and his foot work seemed better as well.

 

Double post

 

You should learn more about Duran than you would know that you are so so so wrong. He was known to totally blow up between fights and Leonard himself admitted that he knew that and that´s why they made the rematch as fast as possible because they knew Duran would not be in shape then. That´s common knowledge.