Bernhard Hopkins vs. James Toney

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JT. I never said that Hopkins isn't ever going to fight aggressively. If you think with me saying that it's against his own 'rulebook' means thats where you pick me up wrong. It's my way of saying that for the most part Hopkins wasn't a come forward aggressor. And he'd certainly not storm forward against Toney, not IMO anyway.

I have gave other examples on Whitaker and Ali. Your obviously thinking that the 'rulebook' expression means never. Wrong. I'm not disputing your counter back with the Johnson fight where he did fight aggressively. I guess my form of expression to describe Hopkins was picked up wrong.

 

Hey, no worries Robbi.

One thing tho

Your statement above doesn't match your earlier one. You say now "it's against his own 'rulebook'

Your original comment was "It just isn't in Hopkins' rulebook to fight with an aggressive head on his shoulders.

Call me pedantic but they are two substancially different meanings to me.


Anyways, carry on as per the scheduled proggy mate.

 

JT. Read this see if you follow it. It's simple and maybe makes it easier to follow my against his own 'rulebook' description.

"Pernell Whitaker never had power, so how the hell is he going to knockout Duran"

Now lets break this down. Whitaker never had power? Obviously he did as he was known to take heads off against some opponents, especially his earlier lightweight days. Juan Nazario was down on the canvas for about five minutes after Whitaker smacked him with a left hand. Hurtado was stopped late at 147lbs by a barrage.

Now, the word 'never' can be picked up in a similar manner to 'against his own 'rulebook'. With the sentence on Whitaker and Duran above the word 'never' is just an overexaggeration of Whitaker's lack of power.

I used the word against or "It just isn't in" Hopkins' 'rulebook' to fight aggressively. You responded with the Johnson fight, I then came back to tell you what I meant.

It now seems you think "The thing is you fully imply Hopkins isn't the sort who's ever going to fight aggressively"

 

Yeah sorry mate. I was using 'against' when I did you say the above. Along the same lines though.