Bernstein talks about Manny-Floyd, thinks Pep is overrated!

Cocteau · Jul 2, 2010

This ****in' article shoul ****in' stop RIGHT NOW! We can't afford FMJ/Ellerbe and his people reading or hearing about all these. He hesitated signing the contract enough, now we fans have a chance to see the fight we deserve once he signs it.

Articles like this from respected trainers, analysts and technical boxers EXPOSING Pac's chance isn't very helful!

BOXING/MMAFAN · Jul 2, 2010

ya reinvented himself with steroids!

BOXING/MMAFAN · Jul 3, 2010

manny has never been hit as hard as floyd has been hit (mosley) and survived. JMM had manny hurt for crying out loud i think floyd might just might hit a tad harder than JMM so it'll be interesting to see what happens to manny when Floyd connects, and he will

Boxed Ears · Jul 3, 2010

BOXING/MMAFAN said: ↑

ya reinvented himself with steroids!
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What? This is the first I've heard of something like that!

BOXING/MMAFAN · Jul 3, 2010

lol sorry ya im bored i rarely get on this but i diddnt do **** tnight and am getn drunk at home

BOXING/MMAFAN · Jul 3, 2010

i dnt care who wins fk it long as thet fight i dnt think pac can beat floyd floyd is on another level man with his techniqu but that southpaw stance and speed and unorthodox punches comin from all over the place with that power behind them oh man floyd cant get careless in the slightest bit

renyo · Jul 3, 2010

BOXING/MMAFAN said: ↑

manny has never been hit as hard as floyd has been hit (mosley) and survived. JMM had manny hurt for crying out loud i think floyd might just might hit a tad harder than JMM so it'll be interesting to see what happens to manny when Floyd connects, and he will
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nut:nutWhat... This man has faced the best featherweight division of the last whenever generation... Actually the best of any time, and came out with a winning record!!!!

anarci · Jul 3, 2010

Sweet Pea Pacquiao said: ↑

Great, great interview. It's in two parts.

http://www.maxboxing.com/news/main-...on-reno-johnson-jeffries-and-the-biz-part-one

http://www.maxboxing.com/news/promo...mories-manny-vs-floyd-and-the-future-part-two

Here's some excerpts:

Ryan Maquinana: Mayweather is the toughest match-up in the sport. Defensively, he’s almost perfect but he likes to fight in spurts. Do you think Pacquiao can apply sustained, accurate pressure for 12 rounds, enough anyway to restrict Floyd from establishing his offense? Personally, I think that if Manny can edge out the first four rounds on the cards, it will affect the whole complexion of the fight in his favor. If not, then Floyd will clearly win the decision. How would you see that fight playing out?

Al Bernstein: I think the key to that fight is going to be in the first five rounds. Pacquiao is a different fighter now. He’ll attack you but he’ll do it with movement from side to side and with more combinations. I’ve never seen a fighter re-invent himself the way Manny Pacquiao did and he’s got huge hand speed.

But somewhere in those first five rounds, Mayweather is going to land a right hand of significance. How Manny Pacquiao deals with that is going to give us a clue to how the fight’s going to go. If he’s hurt or knocked down or knocked out, obviously, then we have our answer. But if he isn’t and, up through those middle rounds and beyond, sustains his pace and makes Floyd Mayweather fight three minutes of every round, then I think you’d have to start looking at Pacquiao as the potential winner of that fight. Mayweather is a little bit bigger than Manny, in general, so I think Floyd will land something early. Even if Manny doesn’t get hurt and wins only one of the first five rounds, you’d have to assume he’d maybe be able to come out in those mid-to-later rounds.

RM: In 2002, THE RING released a list that proclaimed the 80 greatest fighters of the last 80 years. To name a few of the little guys, Henry Armstrong was at number two; Duran was at five; Willie Pep was one spot behind him and Pernell Whitaker rounded out the top ten. Based on each fighter’s body of work, where do Pacquiao and Mayweather currently stand in comparison with them?

AB: Interesting. The Pernell Whitaker [pick] doesn’t shock me. Now this will probably be a terrible heresy to say. Willie Pep was a great guy; I met him and I think he’s a terrific fighter but I think he’s overvalued by a lot of people. He lost all the time to Sandy Saddler, who controlled their series. I’m not sure why people continue to believe that Pep was the greater fighter. No question he was great but having him number six all-time, I just don’t get that.

Now Manny and Floyd. I’m not saying that Floyd has fought a total group of cupcakes. He hasn’t. And in some cases, other things have conspired for Mayweather to have the schedule that he’s had. He’s fought some very good fighters. But Manny Pacquiao has one thing going for him that Floyd doesn’t. He fought three other Hall of Famers in an era when those four—he, [Erik] Morales, [Marco Antonio] Barrera and [Juan Manuel] Marquez—all could lay claim to the fact that it was probably the best featherweight or super featherweight division that boxing has ever seen. Unfortunately, Marquez didn’t get in on enough fights in that period but at least he got in to contribute mightily. To me, that era when they were all fighting each other rivals the Hagler-Hearns-[Wilfred] Benitez-Duran era. That’s how good they were. And I think that gives Manny a leg up on being higher on the list than Mayweather. They’d both be in the top 40 for sure. What numbers they’d be, I don’t know, but they’d both be up there.
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I actually agree with a lot of what he had to say, i forget that he is a pretty knowledgeable commentator. Although i think May is gonna outbox Manny, he made some points that made a lot of sense. Although i think Floyd and especially Manny are way higher than top 40. If Manny beats Floyd hes easily at least top 10. Maybe even Mayweather if he wins impressively.

Oh yeah and Pep was a little faded and had a plane crash or something. However i do think Sadler doesnt get enough credit for his wins, Pep was still at 80 to 90 % he wasnt exactly shot.

MichiganWarrior · Jul 3, 2010

Bernstein is wrong.

Pacquiao needs to establish himself early in the fight. If Mayweather goes into the last 6 rounds with a 4-1 lead, then Mayweather is going to win. Mayweather gets better as the fight goes on, the same cant be said about Pacquiao.

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