Bert Sugar: What's your opinion on the guy?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by klion22, Nov 16, 2007.


  1. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He's obviously one of boxing's greatest historians. But what is your take on the guy? Is he an objective and knowledgeable analyst who tells it like and is still relevant in today's boxing world or has his time passed by and he's still stuck in the Marciano and Cassius Clay days and is out of touch with today's boxers?

    Just curious to see what this board thinks about this guy.
     
  2. The Whaler

    The Whaler My dog be thorough. Full Member

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    What's up with his cigar?
     
  3. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Very intelligent, and knows pretty much all a person could know about boxing without ever actually stepping in the ring before. As a few people already said, he lives in the past with who he thinks is better than who, but generally he's probably the best at what he does.
     
  4. dragosuhail

    dragosuhail Active Member Full Member

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    yeah he knows his stuff, and is pretty observant BUT his bias for the old timers seriously warps any objectivity he tries to bring to the table when discussing modern day fighters.
     
  5. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He knows more about old figters than most people could dream of, he knows as much about the modern gneration of fighter's as i have forgot while typing this message.
     
  6. huki

    huki huk huk ^_^;; Full Member

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    He is more of a great story teller than a boxing historian. To be a boxing historian, you should recognize the great fighters of recent boxing and not just suck on the nuts of every old fighter. He's a clown for ESPN that always has thousands of witty jokes/quotes ready and knows things like the name of Stanley Ketchell's dog, but is too much of a blind nuthugger to see that putting Roy Jones at the bottom of a Top 100 ATG list is moronic.
     
  7. Carlos Primera

    Carlos Primera Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he is a knowledgable guy if you've listened to him or read some of his work. i think he's a pretty cool character for the sport as some sort of crusty old historian. he does have some heavy oldschool bias and i'd take any of his opinions about newer fighters with a grain of salt.
     
  8. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    The guy is a living connection with the sports hayday.

    He's wrong at times and subject to all the same flaws as anyone else.

    Tends to go a little crazy over Dempsey but that example pretty much shows the depth.
     
  9. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Bert Sugar dont know ****!! He rates Ali as the 50th greatest of all time:rofl :rofl :rofl

    I think he drops names from ancient rome:patsch
     
  10. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    From reading your opinions, seems like he's a guy who knows the past cold but can't be taken seriously when he's discussing today's fighters. And that was pretty much my take on the guy. Good source for the history of the sport but not good when it comes to analyzing a fighter from this era.
     
  11. emanuel_augustus

    emanuel_augustus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I find him incredibly annoying. He did a retro piece on Castillo/Corralles and was way off the mark with some of his statements. Not to mention that his constant puns are very lame.

    Plus, anytime you see the guy he's bashing boxing and talking up the good old days. His time is over, boxing doesn't need Bert Sugar anymore.
     
  12. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree his time is up with today's fighting but he is a good source for the "good ole" days right?
     
  13. emanuel_augustus

    emanuel_augustus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not particularly. His books are basically fluff from what I've seen.
     
  14. SteveO

    SteveO MSW Full Member

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    :good
     
  15. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    He has more knowledge of the sport than anyone else in the world, but hes a real problem sharing it with the public.