Bert Sugar: What's your opinion on the guy?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by klion22, Nov 16, 2007.


  1. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee VIP Member

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    the stupid hat kills me. Somebody should just punch it off just for sh*tzngigglez
     
  2. 2smart4u

    2smart4u Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :patsch He says the same things every other old guy who claims to be a HISTORIAN claims ! Bias bull**** basically !
     
  3. Haye

    Haye Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bit of an *******, who has given himself an annoying persona (cigar,hat etc)

    Very biased towards old 1920's american fighters.
     
  4. nervousxtian

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    I love the guy for what he is. Of course he overrates the old guys and hates the modern guys.. he's an old man.. that's what they do.

    It's like how your grandpa or dad always talked about how Jerry Cousy is the greatest basketball player of all time, and you try to convince them that it's Jordan, but they won't have any of that, because of all the dunking and how big guys are, and how Cousy could shoot from anywhere, etc, etc..
     
  5. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Great Boxing Historian who sometimes likes to rewritte history and making some things up in the meantime, he's very charismatic individual with that voice of his, the hat and the cigar, maybe a lil bit stubborn ( with that all time Top Hwt 10) and past his best time as analyst ( like in the Calzaghe-Kessler pre fight analysis but not on the Mosley-Cotto) but still one of the three biggest icons in the sport ( non-fighters) along with Don and Merchant, no doubts about it - I would mention Ali if he was well and Cus D'Amato if he was alive...
     
  6. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    That's my grunt with him. I recently watched a Greatest Knockouts show he was hosting and NOT ONE came after 1960 something. Afterwards kind of as a last thought Brian Kenny asked him why not even one of Tyson's ko's or Lennox's etc.. and he said none of them held the significance of all the ko's from the 40' and 50's.:lol:
     
  7. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    I agree with most of this [wouldn't call that scumbag King "an icon]. Unfortunately, many modern fans seem suceptible to the reverse what they accuse Sugar of - underrating Bert, it seems, because they disagree with his opinions. He is what he is - like ANY boxing analyst, including all of us, he has his biases. I tend to agree with him more often than not, so it's not as much of an issue with me. But regardless of whether we agree with him or not, there should be no question that he is an asset to the sport - a real classic character, at this point, one of a kind.
     
  8. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I respect the knowledge and experience the man has, but more so in regards to the fighters of yesteryear and comparing them against same.

    Increasingly over the years, I've found his opinions on more modern fighters (especially the heavyweights) to be out-of-touch and clouded by nostalgia. That's only human, but some people treat him like the final word on any subject when he's really just another voice in the crowd (if a well educated one).

    As ever - there will always be a place in boxing (and any sport) for that old guy that props up the bar going "Ahh, dese guys ain't nothin'! Back in MY day, Joe 'No Ears' Robinson woulda knocked dese bums out on da same night!"
     
  9. the_truth

    the_truth Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I respect what everyone does as their job, but honestly I don't really agree with a lot of his opinions and thoughts of boxing, I do agree hes a little bias between old time fighters and todays fighters, but also I dont think he gives much credit to the African American and Latino fighters other than Ali and Sugar Ray Robison... those are just my thoughts...he should be more open minded and stop discrediting todays boxing and instead help make improvements...
     
  10. surreal deal

    surreal deal Liverpool via Krypton Full Member

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    stupid gimmick that,always having an unlit cigar in his gob.could you be bothered?needs gimmicks to be a 'character',like the cigar,hat;otherwise he'd just be another doddery old man.
    far more interested in promoting bert sugar than boxing.
    other than that he's ok.
     
  11. IceJohnScully

    IceJohnScully Active Member Full Member

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    Sugar reads a lot and is in love with history of the game, and with hearing himself talk about supposed inside things (like what this guy ate in training and what that guy said to his trainer in the dressing room before a fight etc). I think he is one of the "life of the party guys', one of those people who loves to hear himself talk. He thinks he is an expert on boxing but IMO he is nothing more than an expert on boxing history and anecdotes etc. I wouldnt put ANY stock into his opinoon related to anything that goes on inside the ring
     
  12. CzarKyle

    CzarKyle Member Full Member

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    Sometimes I can agree with the guy and sometimes I think he's a pompus bag of wind.
     
  13. Guido

    Guido ESB Addict Full Member

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    That's it exactly -- you can take his exaggerations as just that; he loves alliteration and almost does his analysis in dramatic prose. You just gotta appreciate him as a great story teller, and award him for his knowledge of previous generations.
     
  14. Guido

    Guido ESB Addict Full Member

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    Oh, and the cigar goes with that hat. You don't separate either from Bert. Without either, he'd be powerless.
     
  15. IceJohnScully

    IceJohnScully Active Member Full Member

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    Pompous Bag of Wind.. has his pic next to it in the dictionary