Bert Sugar's 100 Greatest Fighters(What Do You Think?)

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  1. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No.
     
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  2. cotto20

    cotto20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Reasons?????
     
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  3. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Its just an opinion....even Nat Fleicher and Flash Gordon had an opinion...very hard to rate all those fighters be right.....only God knows who is the best although we all have our own favorites and dislikes......I cant see Dempsey being top 10 Lb for Lb...but thats his opinion..... but who made him an expert....
     
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  4. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Because:
    1. He arguably wasn't even the #1 in his own weight class.
    2. There's a number of other fighters that have had more achievements and better resumes.
     
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  5. cotto20

    cotto20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He was number #1 Featherweight at one point. And his record at one point was 134-1-1, which is pretty breathtaking. And he did defeat the likes of Manuel Ortiz, Snady Saddler, and some of the best contenders of his era.

    were would you have him in your list?
     
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  6. MrMarvel

    MrMarvel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't have time right now to go through the whole list, but there are some real doozies on there.
     
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  7. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But arguably not of all time.

    He beat Saddler once in four fights, getting embarrassingly KO'd in one of their other fights and quitting in their other fights. He beat a lot of good contenders, but his overall record against fellow HOFers is mixed: he beat Ortiz and Wright (one of the weaker HOF inductions IMO) but lost to Angott and 3 out of 4 to Saddler.

    There are a number of other fighters with credentials at least on par with Pep's, if not better.

    I don't know exactly, but he'd rate behind Robinson, Armstrong, Greb, Leonard (both of them), Duran, Charles, Ross, Louis, Langford, and Ali at the very least on my list.
     
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  8. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    No room for Benny Lynch?
     
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  9. DRMULLEN

    DRMULLEN Active Member Full Member

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    Duran, at 8..bert get it right lbflb Duran, is no 3..Jones, should be in higher, tyson at 100is nutz.
     
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  10. DRMULLEN

    DRMULLEN Active Member Full Member

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    Hey Teddy, Bert has Jofre at 28..
     
    DRMULLEN, Sep 19, 2009
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  11. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    A **** list by a clownish, hat wearing, cigar smoking , anecdote spinning showbiz wannabe "boxing expert" poser. Main reasons for his list's mediocrity are his comically low ratings of Jose Napoles, Carlos Monzon, Carlos Ortiz, Wilfredo Gomez and Wilfred Benitez. He needs another shot of ExLax and a good blowout before he spins out another so called "list" like that again.
     
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  12. gooners!!

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    When you have Julio Cesar Chavez at 17, Pernell Whitaker at 48 and no Lennox Lewis you know your list is pretty nonsensical.
     
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  13. cotto20

    cotto20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Also i think Billy Conn is to high
     
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  14. Danny

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    I agree but numbers one & two I totally agree with!

    Chavez above Leonard?

    Argeullo is too low for me!
     
    Danny, Sep 19, 2009
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  15. cotto20

    cotto20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How the heck can Michael Spinks not be a top 100 fighter?
     
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