Berto on the same track as Lacy

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  1. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Rushing a fighter before they are fully developed is a big no no. Gary Shaw and Lou Dibella being the greedy guys they are, seem to be the kings of it. Berto is showing a lot of promise, but also some of the same flaws Lacy showed leading up to the Calzahge fight. In my opinions Lacy is a ruined fighter.
     
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  2. HandsOfGold

    HandsOfGold Member Full Member

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    I'm gonna wait until I see Lacy fight with a 100% healed shoulder before I judge him ruined or not.
     
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  3. KillerInstinct

    KillerInstinct Member Full Member

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    I agree. While Lacy did look bad at the 2nd half of the fight, he was really beating up Tyspko during the first couple of rounds and tearing a rotator cuff (or whatever he did) definately would affect his performance. I think Lacy will go on to be a titilist, I think people just refuse to admit the fact that Calzaghe is indeed a great fighter who has Lacy's number. However, Kessler will beat Calz :deal
     
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  4. He Hate Me

    He Hate Me Active Member Full Member

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    Berto is a future world champ, another future world champ I hope they won't throw in the fire is chavez jr.
     
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  5. Illmatic

    Illmatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lacy was a top 3 super middle in the world...he just lost to a better fighter, simple as that.
     
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  6. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good
     
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  7. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    Perfectly said (WOW ILL, you turnin over a new leaf....I find myself agreeing with ya alot as of late....Id like to think I had some influence here...:lol: ).

    Seriously tho. Lacy was a good fighter and a great puncher...but he just lost to a better fighter, no more, no less.

    Lets wait till he fully heals and gets back in there before we start planning his retirement party!

    :good

    As for Berto, I think he is gonna win this one. I like what I have seen from the kid so far....we will see tho.
     
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  8. Mrboogie23

    Mrboogie23 what the?? Full Member

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    I think Berto has the goods. I like what he's shown up to now.



    As far as Lacy is concerned, like has been said, wait until he's returned healed before we say he's shot. he got beat bad by Calzaghe but Calzage is a very good fighter.

    No shame in that.
     
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  9. Illmatic

    Illmatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol: I forget what we even used to argue about...
     
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  10. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    :lol:
     
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  11. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Berto's chin is awful. Estrada by KO.
     
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  12. PR Boxing Lore

    PR Boxing Lore Member Full Member

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    Berto has a good future, they have to take it easy with him, step by step.Lacy, we have to wait and see! Hello from Arecibo left hook!:D
     
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  13. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Ha Im not actually living PR but I go there a lot! I love it down there. Anyway, as some said Lacy was a top three fighter, but he still wasnt experienced enough facing the proper fighters to prepare him for someone like Calzahage. Calzahge outclassed him in every way. How many times do we see a ranked fighter but into a fight that he doesnt belong in. Kermit Cintron quickly comes to mind, but I dont think the beating he took was anything close the beating and mental damage Lacy took against Joe.
     
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  14. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    No, its not as simple as that. He lost big. And did so, because he was too green vs elites. He met the best too soon. He may have never been able to best JC, but embarressing himself, would not be the option had he waited.

    Luckily Lacy seems strong of mind, and I believe he will recover from the big loss over time.
     
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  15. Grabonator

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    :good
     
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