Berto tests positive for PED

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  1. BoxingAnalyst

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  3. ems_kto

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    CIR testing is only done if a red flag is raised due to an over the limit T/E ratio under USADA testing.

    What that means is that someone could keep their T/E levels just under a 4-1 ratio and dope i.e Peterson and never get caught.

    VADA complete CIR tests on every sample, so if someone is using synthetic test, they will know.
     
  4. shaunster101

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  5. pijo

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    This is wank news, I was really looking forward to both fights.

    Better for these scumbags to be outed now though. How much does the VADA testing cost? I think whoever is promoting the fight should be paying for at least any World title fight to be tested.
     
  6. DanielJFiasco

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    :deal CIR testing is pretty expensive, so to keep costs down USADA, WADA and several other groups would only perform CIR on abnormal or suspicious testosterone levels. Peterson's ratio was only a 3.7

    CIR can determine the difference between synthetic and organic testosterone, whereas other forms of testing are just ways of spotting abnormally high levels, regardless of it's origin.
     
  7. SouthpawSlayer

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    cool story dont know why you posted it though, all i said was how usada test for testosterone some fool claimed they didnt:lol:
     
  8. shaunster101

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    I'm pretty sure Berto would have failed the basic post fight urine test with nandrolone. This isn't to say he want using other substances, but trying to dope with nandrolone is like trying to smuggle drugs through customs by wearing a suit made of marijuana.
     
  9. bam bam

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    Lamont Peterson would have passed the USADA testing so if they are testing for Teststerone they aren't doing a very good job.

    VADA > USADA
     
  10. bam bam

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    On about 10% of urine samples they take in a year. Its why Conte tells all the people he works with to go through VADA because they are the #1 testing in the world :lol: Berto listened to him too.
     
  11. Isn't nandrolone produced naturally anyway?

    I'm sure I've heard that before.

    Or is it that you get busted if you're over a certain level where it's clear that you've been supplementing... :think
     
  12. Flea Man

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    Testosterone is produced naturally. Nandrolone is, but tiny amounts.
     
  13. liger05

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    "CIR is a regular part of the USADA testing program for all athletes under USADA's jurisdiction, as well as a routine part of the anti-doping programs conducted by USADA in the sport of professional boxing,"

    There is nothing vada tests for in boxing which usada does not.
     
  14. bam bam

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    The detection of synthetic testosterone apparently came as a result of VADA's use of the CIR test as a regular screening tool; USADA, in contrast, does use the CIR test, but not on every single sample it analyzes. Although it does not disclose to the athlete when a CIR test is being used, it more often uses the testosterone-to-epitestosterone test, which is known as a T/E ratio test. A USADA spokesman said, “CIR is a regular part of the USADA testing program for all athletes under USADA’s jurisdiction, as well as a routine part of the anti-doping programs conducted by USADA in professional boxing.” If the T/E level breaches a 4-1 ratio, a CIR is then ordered.

    Under VADA's protocol, the CIR test is administered regardless of the T/E ratio. The CIR test measures natural testosterone, produced by cholesterol, against exogenous or synthetic testosterone, a plant substance.



    http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-05-08/news/31630202_1_testosterone-drug-samples-drug-test

    Petersons sample wouldnt have breached USADA's 4.1 ratio and therefore he escapes detection.
     
  15. Chunky

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    The punk should be banned for life