Berto Was Always Overrated

Assuming Shane makes it past May 7th without having his life expectancy cut in half, that's also a fight I wouldn't mind seeing.

 

I see no reason why Maidana would move up to 147 to fight Ortiz, he has a shot lined up for Judah at 140 for a title, assuming Judah doesn't make something happen with JMM

 

Actually, SweetHome_Bama, Berto was protected by Jose Suleiman and referred by Floyd himself in the Hatton fight post fight interview as the next great thing so as soon as Floyd decided to take another layoff, they took Berto for what he was not and gave him an opportunity of a lifetime fighting Mickey Rodriguez for the vacant WBC title ( vacated by Floyd after the Hatton fight). Berto didn't mature but he grew up in confidence by outgunning and outpunching smaller men and much less skillful opponents ( taken exception of Collazo and a faded Quintana who both rocked Berto in the 1st stanza). No, he was not prepared to fight the best wws.

 

Berto underestimated Ortiz. Ortiz was the perfect style for Berto also. Berto was looking for the one punch the whole fight, and yet Berto could not take Ortiz punch well when Berto would try and land the punch during an exchange, so the way Berto had to exploit Ortiz by landing that right in an exchange was limited, since he was getting countered. And Ortiz kept close to Berto which stylewise helped him. Had Berto been an experienced professional he would have worked the body more and then got Ortiz tired and landed a big punch when 'Ortiz lost his focus. But Berto was looking for the one punch too much. It was a good win by Ortiz, but Berto did not fight a complete fight. He was looking for the one punch. Ortiz will not last long as champion. He is too open for a counter right hand. He is strong early but will always fade.

 

What a fraud this berto losing to a clown like ortiz

 

Berto had literally faught 1 round in the last year, had Ortiz ready to go in the 6th, but to Victor's credit he didn't fold, stood his ground, and the knockdown prior to the end of the 6th was the turning point in the fight. I also think Berto's corner being an absolute joke, didn't help him much, either way I don't think either guy hurt themselves. It was a good fight from two young fighters, Berto owned his loss and I think he'll be fine going forward.

 

Also Berto did a shitty job controlling range in this fight, he allowed Ortiz to smother him, and when he would get opportunities he would get too close and smother himself. All that being said, he had chances to win this fight, and didn't take advantage.

 

One loss dose not equal over rated, Berto is a guy who knocked out Carlos Quintana with a torn bicep muscle.
The man is way to talented to not come back from this.

 

i knew Berto was toast at the weigh in , when i saw Ortiz :admin he trained hard and got what he deserved at the end of the night.

 

best insight so far as to the significance of berto's lost. it was the HBO-FLoyd agenda that got derailed

 

I agree that Ortiz proved that he could hang in there when the going got tough. But let's not forget that Lennox Lewis WON the Vitali Klitschko fight by stopping him legitimately.

Ortiz won; Vitali did not. :deal

 

Hahahahahahaha......Pac isn't giving Mosley a beating.

You just watch and come up with your excuses.

Pac should win a fairly comfortable but at times competitive decision.

But again please have your excuses handy as to why this great ass whoopin NEVER takes place.

 

**^ Mosley doesn't have **** on Pac. He'll have 2-3 early rounds to try and catch Pac big, if he can't he's getting beaten pretty easily.

**How well Mosley can handle Pac's power will really be a good gauge as Shane has shown to have a solid chin throughout his career.

Mosley's gonna get beat easily though, he got dominated by Floyd and is taking on Pac for the wrong reasons (money oriented)

Red: what's your source? Did Zab have something lined up with the Maidana/Morales winner? Because Judah holds the IBF belt and Maidana won back the WBA interim

so how did Maidana get a shot lined up with Judah of all champs?

 

Your right, Ortiz only lost once (to maidana)... and that was more mental than physical..

 

i dont care who is overrated or not. berto entertaines me . he entertained me in his losing effort too! i dont know what the big deal is. i dont know why people talk about a fighters flaw. who really cares?

as long as they are entertaining i dont care about flaws in a fighter unless i was their trainer.