Besides Mayweather/ Pacquiao / Marquez, head to head, who the best Welterweight?

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  1. Hotsauce

    Hotsauce Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    brook and bradley
     
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  2. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Brook and Bradley are safe bets, but if he was consistent and active enough, I'd pick the Garcia trained version of Maidana. He doesn't do anything pretty, but to come close to drawing with Floyd and being very competitive in the rematch, showing versatility that seemed IMPOSSIBLE to come from someone like Maidana that was one dimensional, that says alot. Him ending up with a deceptive, unique style, I think Maidana might not be finished yet and don't be surprised if he outboxes a pure boxer. His ring IQ doubled when he got with Garcia, making Floyd miss over and over in the first match. This isn't the one dimensional 140 brawler anymore.
     
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  3. icarus1

    icarus1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    bradley is proven, he fought pac and marquez. all others are over rated after having one good win.
     
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  4. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    2011 and junior welterweight it is no longer.
     
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  5. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Bradley is an amazing fighter. No question. But his WW form is highly understated. Understated in how not-so-great it is relative to Timmeh of 140 and pre-2012... I don't think the remainder of his career is going to be so pretty. I don't think he would beat Brook/Thurman/Maidana and potentially Spence/Ali/Porter. I hope I'm wrong as I've long liked Bradley but that's how I feel. Lets see how he does tonight with Vargas but even that I view as a close fight that Bradley could easily lose, opposite of the seeming opinion that Bradley will dominate. It'll be interesting to see how and what Bradley does over the next 18 months.
     
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  6. IKSAB

    IKSAB Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Brook looks the most complete to me. Apart from the first Carson Jones fight where he gassed, i've barely seen him drop a round. I pick him over every WW not named Mayweather, although I can see him giving even Floyd problems.
     
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  7. glovesofcrimson

    glovesofcrimson Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How can it be Brook when his only notable win is Porter? I know Bradley campaigned at lower weight for a while but he is still the best fighter on that list by far, the 2nd Pacquiao fight was quite close too.
     
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  8. boxing_master

    boxing_master Loyal Member banned

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    He only lost to Manny Pacquaio no shame in that now:nono

    Bradley has a incredible resume he on a different to to those guys


    i dont even like him:deal
     
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  9. Super Hans

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    Yeah so Khan wouldn't be as drained anymore and with the changes he and Maidana have made (i.e Khan grabs more which worked wonderfully for Alexander, Maidana boxes more but he still won't outbox Khan), it will be an easy night for Khan.

    Plus Maidana seemed to be hungry back then. Now while he's mooching about in his fancy pants outfit weighing 16 stone, it doesn't appear he's too fused anymore.
     
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  10. Super Hans

    Super Hans The Super One™ banned

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    Did you read the thread? Or the title. It emphasizes head to head not resume.

    I could ask how could it be Bradley when he went life and death with Provodnikov, or how can it be Bradley when Thurman KO'd Chaves and he didn't even get the W.
     
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  11. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just based on recent forum I'd have it
    1.Mayweather



    2/3 Brook,Thurman
    4/5 Maidana,Pacquiao
    6/7 Porter, Bradley
     
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  12. Super Hans

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    So to answer the question in the thread you are saying 'The Special One™'
     
    Super Hans, Jun 27, 2015
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