Best 100 heavyweights 1885 to 1955, input please.

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  1. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Jack Delaney beat Renault,Rojas,Risko,Uzcudun,Montgomery,Gorman.
     
  2. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The One and Only Full Member

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    I miss Charly Mitchel, Pierre Charles (could be ahead of Uzcudun, Farr and even Braddock), Walter Neusel, Harry Matthews, Don ****ell and possibly Battling Siki.
     
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  3. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Neussel, Gains, Charles, Mitchell, Delaney all sound like they should be thereabouts, I'll start weedling them later!
     
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  4. Tramell

    Tramell Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hell of a class, I know maybe 1/2 of this list?!
     
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  5. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just even trying to get a consensus top 10 is going to be a shambles. I’ve tried to write a couple out and I’m far from satisfied with any attempt so far
     
  6. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How about tiers of 20?
    Corbett
    jackson
    fitz
    jeffries
    johnson
    dempsey
    tunney
    schmeiling
    sharkey
    carnera
    baer
    louis
    Charles
    Marciano
    Langford
    Mcvey
    Jeannette
    Wills
    Sullivan
    Burns
     
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  7. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Who did Mitchell beat to justify putting him on this list?
    Charles beat a total of 1 ranked heavyweight, no 8 Neusel
    Mathews was a hyped up false alarm.
    ****ell made his heavyweight name beating a light heavy[Mathews], and a washed up Lastarza.
    Siki never even beat a second rate heavyweight and was defeated by heavyweight journeymen.He was never more than average even at 175lbs!
     
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  8. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster Idealism must not be staunched by safety Full Member

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    My top 10 would look something like:

    1. Louis
    2. Marciano
    3. Dempsey
    4. Johnson
    5. Sullivan
    6. Jeffries
    7. Charles
    8. Walcott
    9. Schmeling
    10. Fitzsimmons
     
  9. Jason Thomas

    Jason Thomas Member Full Member

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    well, I can't see Archie Moore not being on this list up to 1955. His peak victories at heavy were in these years.

    Larry Gains jumped out at me, but he has gotten his support.

    Harold Johnson--wins over Godoy, Henry, Charles, and Valdes among others in this era.

    Bob Satterfield. Wins over Valdes, Baker, Oma, etc in this era. Erratic but I think a top 100 is not out of reach.

    Bettina, Savold,

    and also consider Neusel.
     
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  10. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mitchell probably shaded his series with Burke and did well with McCaffrey, borderline, the rest I agree completely with you.
     
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  11. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fair comment, most of the omissions were picked up by the eagle-eyed experts! Satterfield I can never make my mind up about, so erratic but I'll put him in the mix and the selection of the last 20 will decide his fate. Harold straggled the eras up to and post 1955 more than anybody else but yeah, his pre 1955 form merits inclusion.
     
  12. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The One and Only Full Member

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    You forgeot Walcott, who should be in the top 10.
    And I hope you mean 'Sailor' Sharkey.
    I would put O'Brien, Choyinsky, Carpentier and Stribling (possible Firpo) over Jeannette, McVey and Langford. The others seemed to be about correct.
     
  13. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The One and Only Full Member

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    Charles defeated Stribling once (the other he lost by disqualification) among others. Mitchel was competitive with Sullivan, although physical very disadvantaged.
     
  14. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I did indeed miss Walcott, thanks! Exit Burns to tier two!
     
  15. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    OK revised to include Walcott!Corbett
    jackson
    fitz
    jeffries
    johnson
    dempsey
    tunney
    schmeiling
    sharkey
    carnera
    baer
    louis
    Charles
    Marciano
    Langford
    Mcvey
    Jeannette
    Wills
    Sullivan
    Walcott
    Second tier of 20.
    Burns
    Goddard
    Maher
    Sharkey
    hart
    Clarke
    Gunboat
    Gibbons
    Godfrey 2
    Pastor
    Conn
    Bivins
    Moore
    Willard
    Loughran
    Murray
    Maxim
    Ray
    Henry
    Greb.
    God help me!
     
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