Best 15 HWs of the last 50 years?

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  1. Dfaulds

    Dfaulds Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think you're being liberal with the ISH there.. Wilder has the worst title defences in recent heavyweight history and possibly top 5 worst of all time.
     
    Dfaulds, Jun 27, 2017
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  2. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Maybe. Its disgraceful that he's yet to face a single clear top ten hw contender in a defense. No one has ever had this many consecutive defenses of this low a quality. I agree in that.

    But part of the reason for that is most lesser belt holders lose to the level of comp he's fighting. White wolf beating Brewster, Briggs beating White Wolf, that's just one belt with two consecutive changes in possession by a champ losing to a guy considered to be at the level of Wilders comp heading into the fight. It's tough to keep beating top 20ish hws and Wilder has done it, so I give the devil his due.
     
    andrewa1, Jun 27, 2017
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  3. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    You know what I thought the same thing at first. Then I re-read and he says by achievement only, not by h2h ability. Wilder has 5 defenses of his crappy belt but it is what it is. By default IMO that ranks him higher than guys like Tucker, Golota or Witherspoon -- guys who never held a belt for long.

    One name I see was missed is Frank Bruno. Again though, Bruno managed to win ABC belts and then quickly lost them.
     
    madballster, Jun 27, 2017
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  4. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ali
    Holmes
    Foreman
    Lewis
    Tyson
    Holyfield
    Frazier
    Bowe
    Norton
    Wlad
    Witherspoon
    Vitali

    After that, there are a number of very good fighters that are hard to definitively separate (Tucker, Moorer, Tubbs, Dokes, Pinklon Thomas, Douglas, Ruddock, Bruno, Page, Lyle, Quarry)

    Although Joshua has the potential to make this list, such a ranking is premature at this time.

    No way in Hell Tyson Fury makes this list. And so far, same goes for Wilder. I see no evidence Wilder is as skilled or hits as hard as even Shannon Briggs. And NOBODY has mentioned Brigg's name for this list (and rightfully so).
     
    Smokin Bert, Jun 27, 2017
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  5. Dfaulds

    Dfaulds Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Briggs and Brewster could very easily beat Wilder...

    Wilder has had 5 voluntary defences and chose to fight guys who are European level at best.
     
    Dfaulds, Jun 27, 2017
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  6. Dfaulds

    Dfaulds Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Golota never won a title. Tucker lost his to Mike Tyson by UD... If Wilder fought Tyson in his first defence do you think he would have retained it?
     
    Dfaulds, Jun 27, 2017
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  7. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Wilder ranks above these guys as a titelist

    Valeuv
    Maskaev
    Peter
    Byrd
    Haye
    Parker
    Wlad (WBO)

    He's a notch below Vitali but he chance to surpass him.

    There hasn't been a whole lot of single title reigns throughout history.
     
    dinovelvet, Jun 27, 2017
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  8. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1. Ali
    2. Foreman
    3.Holmes
    4. Frazier
    5. Lewis
    6.Holyfield
    7.Tyson
    8.Bowe
    9.Norton
    10.Witherspoon
    11 Wlad
    12 Vitali
    from here on it doesn't matter much right now
     
    Reinhardt, Jun 28, 2017
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