Best 5 Boxers Since 1960 ?

In no order:
Leonard
Duran
Camacho
Conteh
Holmes.

 

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Muhammad Ali was not the full package. As good as a fact rather than an opinion. He seldom went to the body and couldn't fight inside.

 

You don't understand what I mean't by a full package. Ali had the ability to go the body, but very rarely did.

He had all the attributes that make up a world class fighter: All-time great chin, All-time great handspeed, all-time great footwork, decent power, and all-time great stamina. That's what I mean when I'm reffering to the full package!

Saying Ali couldn't go to the body or couldn't fight inside isn't correct. He chose not to because it was in his best interest not to.

 

In No order..(My favs)

Roberto Duran
Muhammad Ali
Marvin Hagler
Julio Cesar Chavez
Thomas Hearns

 

You know this how? He never showed decent body-punching skills. He showed good inside countering skills against an inept boxer(skill-wise) in George Foreman, but otherwise he was not the full package in terms of what he brought to the table. He was a great boxing mind though, especially later in his career.

 

Yes, mine was in order. Interesting that you don't rate Jones. Is that out of personal dislike for him? I really don't see any other way, he is far above Floyd for me.

 

Ali.
Leonard.
Jones Jr.
Duran.
Pryor or Whitaker.

 

Pryor really doesn't belong in this discussion. Above the likes of Hagler, Monzon, Napoles, Griffith, Hearns, etc? Nah, not even close.

 

Pryor really doesn't belong in this discussion. Above the likes of Hagler, Monzon, Napoles, Griffith, Hearns, etc? Nah, not even close.I think he does belong. He is the best light-welterweight ever, great record, win over Arguello one of the best fights and wins of modern times, showed he could brawl and also box with fantastic ability.I dunno why u need the feel to immediately dismiss someone else's opinion anyway, the thread is asking for you to pick your top 5, not diss other people's.

 

Above the fighters I named?

 

He is the best light-welterweight ever, great record, win over Arguello one of the best fights and wins of modern times, showed he could brawl and also box with fantastic ability.I dunno why u need the feel to immediately dismiss someone else's opinion anyway, the thread is asking for you to pick your top 5, not diss other people's.

 

What's your top 5 then Sweet Pea? Just 5 remember.

 

I've given my top 5.

He beat Arguello, a natural 130 pounder who was past his prime. A very good win still, but not as good as people make it given the circumstances. His only other top notch win was over an equally past prime version of Antonio Cervantes. Otherwise, his resume pails in comparison with the others listed and his career was de-railed by drugs. At his best he was fantastic, but his overall career doesn't stack up.

The title of "Best Light-Welterweight Ever" is a subjective one as well. I just don't see how his career stacks up to the likes of those I mentioned earlier. His sheer ability may have been on the level, but not above, definitely not to the point of rating him above the others named based solely on that.

 

I disagree with the choice of Monzon. I believe he was a great fighter, but that you are overrating him by putting him top 5 (just so you know how I think of a poll asking for 'best boxers', when I see that question asked I think entirely in terms of ability- not achievement. So resume and titles won are secondary to how good I think the boxer was in terms of ability, ie I rate Pryor above say, Oscar De La Hoya, but he won far less titles and fought far less household names, but I still think he was a more talented boxer. If you prefer to make your judgement based on both factors, fair enough, both ways of thinking about a poll like this are valid I think). And I think Hagler would've beaten him at middleweight.

 

He was not a full package in terms of what he brought to the table, but he possessed all the attributes.