Best 5 records in boxing history

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  1. Beatle

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    You're preaching to the choir here: I think Marciano was the best HW of all time. But he started his career at age 26 (very late), and wasn't active enough to really prove how great he was. 49-0 is not the same as 260-19. Marciano did fight the best available fighters, though. Floyd Patterson didn't move up from the light-heavyweight division until after Marciano retired. That was shrewd thinking on the part of Cus D'Amato: after his loss to Joey Maxim, he did not want Floyd to fight another tough, brave fighter.
     
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  2. Beatle

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    Wow, Peter Buckley had more fights than Harry Greb! :D

    But here's a guy with an even worse record - a guy named Leon Shavers who was KO'd every time he stepped into the ring, almost invariably in the 1st round:

    http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=5527&cat=boxer
     
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  3. ghostlybadge

    ghostlybadge Punch Drunk Full Member

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    Jimmy Wilde

    won 137 (KO 99) + lost 5 (KO 3) + drawn 2 = 152

    and that is only what is recorded on boxrec the number is alot higher closer to 400. would weigh in fully clothed and still weigh 10-15 lbs lighter than his opponants
    was 103-0 before his first loss.

    look at the people on his list and he took on everyone who wanted a fight. this man should be in anyones top 3 P4P lists and P4P hardest punchers lists
     
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  4. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    His era wasnt brilliant tho, he shouldnt be mentioned with guys like Robinson & Pep IMHO.
     
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  5. Beatle

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    Jimmy Wilde was great but he only spent the last 3 years of his career fighting in the U.S., and that's when he had the 3 losses (unavenged). Like Calzaghe, he will never get credit because he stayed in the UK for too long. In any case, he can't be compared to Greb, Moore, Robinson etc.
     
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  6. ghostlybadge

    ghostlybadge Punch Drunk Full Member

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    his loss to herman who he weighed in fully dressed and still weighed over a stone lighter or his loss to villa who he fought 2.5 years after he retired.

    he spent his life fighting peope who weighed in at 115-120 lbs for fights when he walked around at 94-100.
    If he was fighting today how many weight devisions would that be??

    mentioning wilde and calzaghe is an insult. wilde is the best flyweight ever and the 1st world champ. and staying in the UK does not make you bad. how many times did the likes of greb moore etc fight outside of USA. Wilde did not fight many in his home town and was the traveling fighter to most fights in london where he was fighting english fighters.
    Do you have any idea of the hate between Welsh and English
     
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  7. the_truth

    the_truth Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No diesrespect at all, but having no defeats doesnt mean your the best... I know many fighters out there with defeats, which their resume impress me more than Mr.Marciano.
     
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  8. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    and he was blind in one eye,stood about 5ft 8 weighed around 165 yet regularly fought heavyweights,his record is probably closer to 400 fights but some were unrecorded and many were no contests for various reasons,never knocked out,fought the greatest number of champions and ex champions of anyone throughout history,spanked gene tunney like no one ever did.
     
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  9. Beatle

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    Wilde retired when he was 30 years old, so he always fought in his prime. The weight excuse holds up, but Greb fought heavyweights when he was a middleweight! The only time he was really KO'd was at the very beginning of his career, when he was a welterweight and called out a middleweight (who annihilated him).

    Greb never travelled because the European guys travelled to the US. Yes there was a lot of hate between the Welsh and the English, but there was even more hate between blacks and whites in the US. Greb lost to two black guys; the last loss to Tiger Flowers had a lot to do with pre-fight hype in the newspapers, where Flowers was saying that he was going to get robbed. The opposite happened, as eveyone at ringside thought Greb had won.
     
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  10. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    though he did spank flowers silly in a previous fight.
     
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  11. Sean101

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    Anyone know the fighter who is like 0-50
     
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  12. radab

    radab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    300 fights? thats astonishing :admin

    15 rounders as well
     
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  13. Losfer_Words

    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Gotta love his determination! He made it to 3 rounds twice as well! I bet he was shocked when he got out for the third round for the first time.:bbb
     
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  14. Sweet Pea

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    :patschHe was half-blind for Christ's sake.
     
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  15. Sweet Pea

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    I've looked over the "people on his list" many times. Why don't you inform me as to who he faced and beat that warrants a P4P top 3 inclusion. I understand the conditions of his career, how he was often the smaller man, how he KO'd much larger men, how the majority of his record is incomplete, etc. That still doesn't actually explain the lack of quality on his record if you want to get down to it.
     
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