Best adjustments in a fight

Yeah, showed an impressive jab during those moments...the fight was very much in his favor even before that though, I think.

I liked how Morales switched it up in the 7th round of his third fight with Barrera. He was really taking a beating in the 6th, and came out for the next round waiting to counter Marco's jab with an overhand right. Worked like a treat, and it was how he fought himself back into the contest, winning the 7th and 8th easily. Had he done that a round or two earlier, who knows.

 

Thanks, dude. Great synopsis. Haven't seen this fight in 38 years. Man, has it been this long. I can recall the fight and scoring a close win for Herrera, but can't remember the intricate details. Would love to see this on youtube if you're inclined. A buddy of mine was there that night and he scored it very closely for Castillo. So now I'm doubly interested in seeing it again. Incidentally, I met Herrera last year and asked him about the 1st fight with Castillo. All I know about it is what is written in the record books, that he was stopped in 3 by Castillo. I asked him if it was a cut eye loss or something and he was very honest. He said, "no cut, he laid me out!"

Scartissue

 

Marquez vs Pac I

 

Frazier-Bonavena I...Frazier almost lost that fight in the second round but after he tweaked his timing a bit and started timing Ringo's right, it was over.

 

Calzaghe-Kessler is a good one, and also Mayweather-De La Hoya.

He doesn't get the win, but many people disputed it, Alan Rudkin having to go out of his comfort zone and brawl with Lionel Rose was epic.

 

Cotto-Clottey

Marquez-Diaz

 

Leonard vs. Hearns. Hearns was out boxing Leonard. Leonard, who had Dundee in his corner, made it a war.

 

Bitter.

 

How did you see Floyd adapting (for some reason it isn't allowing me to write the "ing" form of the verb "to adjust" here) against Oscar, specifically? I saw it more as a case of Oscar got tired and frustrated, and PBF sensed this and put his foot on the gas a bit more in the final third. I didn't really see any great adjustment, no great change in tactics or anything like that, but I could've missed it because I was a bit drunk at the time and have only seen the fight twice in all, the last time being about 2 years ago I think.

 

Yeah Popkins, a lot of people say this, that it was because of Oscar that Floyd won and not because of Floyd ad******g. But i saw it differently personally, Oscar was doing well with his jab, and to his credit, as the fight got to about the middle stages (i think), Floyd started to take away the jab with his right hand, countering with it, and exploiting any openings on Oscar's left side, making him tentative to use it in my perception. He also stopped going to the ropes and acted more like an actual ring general. That's one thing i've always felt is underrated about Mayweather, he has physical strength, he doesnn't get bullied in the ring, he used to go the ropes a lot of his own accord, because his style was so defensive minded. In very recent times he's stopped going to the ropes and i actually feel he's gotten better technically slightly with the slight deterioration of his speed.

I might be wrong on the fight but that's what i though, it has been a long time since i've watched it though. I reckon he'd always beat Oscar though, he's a better fighter and i don't rate Oscar on that level, like you're saying/implying, Oscar has always had a stamina issue, that's a definite.

 

You could be right man, I'll need to watch it again.

I definitely agree with your point on Floyd's physical strength though, for me that is the one part of Floyd's game which is actually underrated (a contrast with every other facet which is generally overhyped and over-praised considering the standard of fighter he has faced in his career).

Floyd weighed 150, Oscar weighed 154, the fightnight weight disparity may very well have been a fair bit more than that, and yet Floyd was not really outmuscled. I thought Shane looked old, tired and bereft of ideas and energy against Floyd, even early on, but whereas Shane may be said to have been lacking energy, it would be a bit rich to say he was physically weak considering he has always been a strong fighter and is quite a big ww, and Floyd was never outmuscled or bullied by him either. That's why I find it silly when people on the General say that Cotto would be much bigger and stronger than Floyd if they met in the ring, which I have seen said numerous times. I think it'd be quite the opposite.

 

By the way, I also think Floyd always beats Oscar. I didn't used to think so, but lately I have changed my mind on the subject, largely due to the strength issue which we have discussed. I can see him outpointing Tito too, though he may have to do a spot of backfoot jogging to get through. I think the Shane Mosley of 2000 would be a very difficult fight for PBF though (not that I think Shane was a better fighter than Oscar, I don't, but he would be a harder fight for PBF IMO). I think Shane's power, speed, aggression and output would give Floyd a torrid evening.

 

I couldn't see Cotto beating Floyd myself. And he just walked Mosley down, i couldn't see Mosley beating him ever either to be honest. Haha look at me sounding like '*****'! Jus the way i see it in honesty though, we've all got opinions eh? People get me rating Mayweather highly confused with me thinking he's the best ever or some ****, that's not what i'm saying, i've never said anything like that. Ya dig?!

 

Yeah, good post on all points, i agree fully. I'd have him beating Tito, it would be a strictly lateral movement job though, (no shame in some putboxing if you can do it). Mosley earlier in his career would be a much better fighter, i'd ultimately take Floyd myself though. And yeah on Oscar also, i just don;t think there's any reason not to believe Floyd could adapt even if Oscar was a few years younger, and i just think Floyd is better than Oscar personally.

 

I dig dawg.

I didn't think Shane at 38 had much of a chance vs Floyd. I said time and again before the fight that Shane was too easy to hit, and kept pointing to how tired he looked nearing the end of the Cotto fight as irrefutable evidence that he wouldn't have the engine required to compete with someone like Floyd over 12 rounds.

I don't think Cotto would even be competitive with Floyd really, I never have. Floyd's hands are too fast, his punching is too accurate, his whole game is too tight and slick for Cotto, he would win almost every round en route to a UD with Miguel's face resembling a smashed melon by the end...















...:yikes This ***** disease seems to be catching...