Best at creating great punching angles?

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  1. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Fighters that demonstrated the agility and smarts to pivot, side-step, or switch at opportune moments so that they could position themselves to land on their opponents from optimum angles (spots where their opponents were out of position to defend or counter effectively). Any nominees?

    First that come to mind for me are:
    Lomachenko
    Rigondeaux
    Pacquiao
    Camacho
    O.Canizales
    Tyson

    Honorable mention maybe to Sumbu, Ivan Calderon (haven't seen enough of him but he seems to fit the bill), "Pretty Boy Floyd" Mayweather, and Edwin Rosario
     
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  2. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Walcott
    Cotto
     
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  3. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Benny Leonard, Robinson, Dempsey, Julio Cesar Chavez, Pernell Whitaker, Riccardo Lopez, Jose Napoles... the list goes on... all guys with superlative offensive footwork. But I'll add one who it mostly from upperbody adjustments and slight foot position... James Toney.
     
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    nikrj Active Member Full Member

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    Tyson
    Duran
    Chavez
    Arguello
     
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  5. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dempsey was the master of short punching at angles with devestating consequences.
     
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  6. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Any particular Arguello fights in mind?
     
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  7. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Great call on Toney's intelligent use of upper body movement to create angles.
     
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  8. timmers612

    timmers612 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pryor, oh they were different angles then whats thought of by the book but they were angles. Were told Greb did likewise.
     
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  9. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    I always really admired the gracefulness of Cotto's footwork but I felt that he didn't quite have the speed to exploit it fully, from what I recall.
     
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  10. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    LOL. Cotto doesn't belong in this conversation.

    I'd say Duran in the king in this category.
     
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  11. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Duran was phenomenal at making people miss at close range and hitting them with sharp counters but some of the other guys on this list were much better at getting to spots where their opponents literally couldn't hit them if they tried, imo. Guys like Rigondeaux and Lomachenko get damn near perpendicular to a lot of their opponents.
     
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  12. Rafaman

    Rafaman Active Member Full Member

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    Pryor was the first thing I thought of. Very exaggerated angles but they really worked.

    Naseem Hamed belong in here. That leaping corkscrew uppercut is against everything they teach in boxing, yet he perfected it and landed huge bombs to KO guys with it. Remarkable, plus Naz was very good as a southpaw throwing out that jab looking for a reaction then countering from a strange position. Look how he turned the tables on K Kelly by being off center line.
     
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    Rafaman Active Member Full Member

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    Sal Sanchez. The guy put on a clinic vs Litte Red. So fluid and accurate.
     
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    Michael Spinks.
     
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    bcr Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Walcott, Benny Leonard, Tyson, Gomez, Camacho, Loma, Rigo.
     
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