Best ATG middleweight champion that Ezzard Charles beats at 160

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Who is the best fighter that a 160 Ezzard Charles beat? Charles was pretty good at 160, but 175 is considered to be his prime.
     
    InMemoryofJakeLamotta, May 11, 2025 at 9:42 AM
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  2. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He wasn't a world champion, but Charles was barely over 160lbs both times he beat Charley Burley, who is a top 10 ATG MW, imo.
     
    Greg Price99, May 11, 2025 at 10:15 AM
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  3. George Crowcroft

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    Sky's the limit really. There's some guys who you'd have to make favourites based on either footage or prestige at the weight (Hagler, Monzon, Robi, Jones, etc) but I don't think it's unrealistic to say Charles could beat all of them.

    If pressed for a great middleweight who I'm happy picking to lose to Charles, I'd say LaMotta.
     
    George Crowcroft, May 11, 2025 at 10:22 AM
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  4. Fergy

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    Charles v LaMotta!!
    What a fight, one for the ages imo
     
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  5. bolo specialist

    bolo specialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    LaMotta was my 1st choice as well.

    I don't agree that RJ should necessarily be favored over Charles @ 160 though - even though RJ won a vacant piece of the title, he was no less green @ that weight than Charles was, & Charles' wins over a peaking Burley were no less impressive than Roy beating an up-&-coming Hopkins IMO.
     
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  6. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    I would clearly pick him to beat Hopkins. There is nothing Hopkins could do that Charles didn't already do at a higher level (except cry foul).
     
    roughdiamond, May 11, 2025 at 11:28 AM
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  7. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Blasphemy!!!
     
    InMemoryofJakeLamotta, May 11, 2025 at 11:46 AM
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  8. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    Robinson vs Charles at middleweight is quite a scrap. Early 50s Robinson vs Early 40s Charles
     
    InMemoryofJakeLamotta, May 11, 2025 at 11:57 AM
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