Best Australian you never heard of

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  1. Above Deck

    Above Deck Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cliff Samardin could've made it big time.
     
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  2. Crusher

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    Mate if I was you that's who I'd be training with. Knows his stuff.
     
    Crusher, Sep 29, 2012
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  3. TCboxa

    TCboxa Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He does alot of fitness work, little on boxing technique unless you are fighting, i sent a young bloke i used to train to his gym as i dont train fighters anymore and the young bloke wasnt to impressed with boxercise classes, he asked for a bit of one on one and Mark told him he didnt have the time. He was training Troy Mgrath, maby incorrect spelling on his last name, Troy lost two pro fights, went to Mark and got a decent match against a young kid who was a former amateur, he lost the fight. Often its not whos training you but if you have the ability imo, no doubt a good trainer helps but he can only do so much. Im not in the sport anymore so i have no intrest in training, Mike told me when he moved here, not long after Mark opened up his gym.
     
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  4. old man

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    The boxer in the "Who am I" thread had his first fight over 10 rounds against Ray Mc Grady and beat him convincingly.
     
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  5. Dr Gonzo

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    :rofl
     
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  6. Bwgcolman

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    Yeah mate I've heard a heap of stories from old timers in North Queensland about blokes who had all the natural ability and were better than a lot of big name fighters but just didn't crack it for some reason or another,

    Palm Island had great fighters that came through Sharman's tent and kicked on as pro's, George Bracken, Jack Hassen, Alfie Clay.
    Ron Richards was sent to Palm and spent the 50's and 60's there as punishmnet, he trained boxers such as Colin Gibson, who I've heard old fellas say was one of the best they ever saw.
    Doug Sam came along in the 80's and had a lot of sucess, but for every one of these boxers there are stories of blokes who were faster, stronger and better but just didn't care to make their mark.
     
    Bwgcolman, Sep 30, 2012
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  7. Bwgcolman

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    I know a lot of people who grew up with Arthur and he is still in jail I think he is one of the longest serving prisoners in the country. He has spent about 18 months out of prison since the late 50's.

    Arthur was only about a welterweight and from what I heard was unbeatable unless you had a gun. he fought all comers in Sharmans tent all around North Queensland up to heavyweights and never lost.

    From what I can piece together he first got in trouble for disobeying orders from white superiors as a young man (remember Palm Island was basically a penal colony for aboriginal people controlled by the state government) and went to prison. It was later he graduated to sexual crimes.
    He spent about 10 years in the 70s/80s in a open air cage in the middle of the yard of Townsville jail, it took the UN to get him removed.

    He is in his late 70's now and still in jail, so he has done just over 50 years. He was due for release to an old peoples home, but they knocked him back at the last minute.
     
    Bwgcolman, Oct 3, 2012
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  8. old man

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    You might be a tad nervous in the old peoples home if you had the adjoining bed.
     
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  9. Raearna Mcgrady

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    thank you so for sharing i am Ray Mgrady Grandaughter and would love more information this is beyond ive never heard stories like this before i would love to hear more please!
     
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  10. Raearna Mcgrady

    Raearna Mcgrady New Member Full Member

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    wow ive never knew that about my grandfather thank you so much please i would love to hear more !
     
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  11. WhataRock

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    You must be related to Ceddy McGrady aswell Raearna.

    Who maybe is your Great uncle? Can't remember if Ceddy was your grandfather's brother or maybe a cousin? But they were definitely related I read.

    Another great man who service to the sport in Australia won't be forgotten. He fought like 130 times and fought everyone.
     
    WhataRock, Jul 9, 2021
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  12. sparta

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    Wally car was very talented, had almost 100pro fights, he gave me his biography, I recommend it as its a bloody good read.
     
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  13. sparta

    sparta Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah he signed it for me, gave it to me for free. Good falla
     
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  14. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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