Best boxer in last 30 yrs - `Sugar`Ray Leonard

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  1. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Rooster will try and find some way. He'll be at his PC thinking how to tarnish Leonard's wins and elevate Jones' to a level only he can do.

    One of Jones' best wins was Toney and without any shadow of doubt whatsoever he was weight drained badly as it showed in his performance. I give Jones credit for dominating him thoroughly, but Toney was like a shell in there. Infact I'll go as far to say that he looked like a shot fighter. Everything about him were signs of someone who was shot. Ok, he wasn't shot as it was an off night due to problems with the weight.
     
  2. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    James looked rather tubby to me. and even if he was weight drained it couldn't have been half as bad as what Hearns went thru in the leonard fight. it looked as if someone had forgotten to feed him.

    and forget about this talk about James being a shot fighter. he was at the top of KO's best fighters at the time.

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  3. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    So in short, RJs resume is superior to SRL's... rooster?
     
  4. r_9-Ronaldo

    r_9-Ronaldo Shinny Shadez Full Member

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    begin to lose?? wtf he suffered like 1 loss in his first 90 fights at middleweight
     
  5. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Hope they have mercy on u kiid!

    EDIT- that's a reply to u, r-9_ronaldo
     
  6. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Neither man has that great a resume. Ray has a couple and Roy has a couple. Roy won his fights no sweat. Ray had to struggle and have help from the officials to get his tko and split decision. He also had to make sure Duran was 40 pounds overweight otherwise he never would have beaten someone so obviously superior.

    If I had to choose I'd say Leonard's a little better than Roy Jones but still in need of improvement. He got Duran even tho he was out of shape and Hearns hadnt fought but one guy.

    His comeback for the rematches didnt impress me 10 years later. These were mostly Tyson-McNeeley type matches with a curiosity/nostalgia factor involved but shouldn't be taken more serious than say Leonard-Howard or Leonard-Lalonde.

    He was mostly fighting retreads long past the point of public interest when he should have been exploring new worlds to conquer; Nunn, Jackson, Norris, Kalambay, McCallum. THose were the rising stars of the day but Leonard never had any interest in meeting rising stars but rather falling stars.
     
  7. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Robinson last defense of his WW title was against Charley Fusari in '50. Before that he was the WW champ fighting many over-the-weight nontitle bouts -even with a few state MW title fights thrown in. This was not uncommon then. Robinson was having a world of difficulty by this time making weight and had to steam off extra pounds to fight Fusari, which explains why he elected to box the younger man instead of fighting him.

    Anyway, it is more accurate to say that Robinson had 3 losses in his first 25 or 26 bouts after he permantely began campaigning as a MW.

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  8. round15

    round15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sugar Ray Leonard is arguably the best fighter of the last 30 years and some have mentioned Duran, but I place Roberto at the top if this was over a 40 year duration.

    Roy Jones Jr is perhaps the most spectacular fighter of the last 30 years and an argument can be made that he was the most talented fighter within this time period, but his resumes pales in comparison to Leonard.

    Pernell Whitaker should be compared with Leonard in terms of his ring accomplishments and his boxing skills alone.

    Honourable mentions, Lennox Lewis and Evander Holyfield.