Best boxer vs best MMA

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by kelics, Apr 4, 2011.


  1. paloalto00

    paloalto00 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I suppose you and I have different perspectives, for me I honestly don't find sprawling as hard. Of course if I want to stand up against a wrestler I'm going to adjust my stance, my posture will be more squared and lower.

    Wrestling wasn't as technical as boxing for me, my coach told me find that 1 move that you can do better than anyone else and that's all you need. That's exactly what I did.

    Boxing it wasn't such, I was extremely strong for my weight benched 225 and I weighed 125, but that didn't mean anything in the ring
     
  2. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    lol, that's actually a great idea.
     
  3. crimson

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    LOL - true warrior finds a way to win.

    And you make it sound like boxers never "hit below the belt".
    Fighting standing up does not equate to honor.


    I agree in MMA rules, MMA wins and it will not be close.
    The other way around, boxers win.

    Only chance for both is a punchers chance which will be extremely small.
     
  4. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Im not saying sprawling is hard Im saying that if the guy shoots a certain way and the guy sprawls and the shooter turns the corner and the guys sprawls to his belly and the wrestler gets behind

    or the wrestler fakes a shot boxer sprawls to his stomach and wrestler spins behind

    or the shot is so fast that the boxer who doesnt have enough experience and timing sprawls way too late

    I mean maybe Im over complicating it a bit but shooting a great takedown is an art

    much like Floyd Mayweather counter punching is an art

    or Larry Holmes jab was an art

    or Fraziers hook was an art

    the ability to do that and or counter that can not be taught in the time it takes to train for one fight

    My main point is each athlete if on the top level wins almost if not every time in their respecting sport
     
  5. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    I know it feels like a premature stoppage in boxing when a guy just taps in like a minute

    I feel it prevents a possible great fight some times
     
  6. bballchump11

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    what if he's fighting a boxer with great footwork like Mayweather or Pacquiao and just pivot out the way
     
  7. crimson

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    Take down defense requires a lot of skill including timing, move recognition, technique, leverage, etc.

    And some of this, like move recognition, takes experience - not just gym training.
     
  8. KO KIDD

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    Wrestling is like boxing in the sense that you can get your opponent to step into the big punch by setting them up

    a great wrestler is fast watch Olympic wrestlers even Div 1 their feet are quick but their eyes are quick to

    fake a shot get the guy to step circle one way circle the other get the guy to step right into a shot

    plus if the guy pivots and turns its not like bullfighting the guy wont just straight miss and give up they will take a reshot

    or tie up under over and try a throw if they cant shoot if that happens the boxer may be able to wrestle out of the clinch and land an inside punch
     
  9. paloalto00

    paloalto00 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This. I mean we can say the wrestler does this and that, but you also need to remember that the boxer isn't going to just sit there. Boxing isn't just "2 weapons" like most people think, footwork and the angles that the sweet science includes plays a big part of it.
     
  10. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    dead on I've been saying it all thread

    much like boxing is a science of its own
     
  11. Chunk

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    If chuck liddel could fight top level mma just using punches and great takedown defence im sure some boxers could do it!......any boxer who tried it would however have to be a knockout puncher with either hand
     
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  13. paloalto00

    paloalto00 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    To be fair Chuck Liddell was also a world class wrestler, but then again he had shitty punches and still was the best at some point. I suppose the same could work for a boxer who knows how to use theirs legs.
     
  14. GoldenArms

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    In Pride the rules favored the strikers more as opposed to the UFC today, which favors the grapplers. In Pride you can kick and knee a guy in the head when they were on the ground, so that discouraged the grapplers to shoot in for the takedown unlike the UFC.

    I still watch the UFC but I hate all the wrestling and grappling. I'm always biased towards the strikers and guys with good stand up skill.
     
  15. paloalto00

    paloalto00 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    To me that's real fighting, shows how good of a wrestler you are if able to shoot and not get KTFO or exposes the **** out of you