Best career for a boxset..?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by cheekyvid, Apr 7, 2011.


  1. Iron Chinned

    Iron Chinned Guest

    I stayed up, and marvelled as I watched it unfold. I felt Shane was past it ad would be outworked to a wide points loss at best, but also felt he was the biggest puncher Toni had faced.

    Looked a bad cut for Margarito, the pre-fight controversy didn't help, and he got battered. He still took a massive beating, his chin really is something.
     
  2. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    Flea- Sumbu is one of the most underrated fighters of the past few decades. Brillient technician and i would definitely recommend his career set. Although he's probabily the type of fighter only the likes of you and I would enjoy. If you're looking for brawls and KO's, which is most people then it's not the set for you. Sumbu's win over McCallum was so incredibily impressive, he basically outskilled one of the most skilled fighters of his generation. Not many fancied fighting Kalambay back in the day, but his record is still not too shabby, Kalule (underrated), Collins and Herol Graham were brillient wins. Kalambay with more dig on him would be something else.

    On the Graham fights, yes they're quality wins particularly the first where he pretty much made Herol do what he wanted. It's brillient to watch two such slick fighters going at it and Kalambay more solid base and foundations did the trick for him. The second not as much, I had Graham winning. Herol made adjustments, he wasn't as wreckless in walking to counters and was mentally in a better place. Herol was a brillient fighter himself though.
     
  3. Iron Chinned

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    Was a great era for middleweights. I'd rate Sumbus win over McCallum in their first fight as the best single win out of all of those gius fights together. Graham famously gave McCallum a good go, and McCallum soundly beat Watson, but Sumbu was perfect in the 1st, and never really let Mike get going.

    I've seen some of the second fight Slip, and Kalambay seemed to be getting the better of it. Does Mike deserve the win?

    Kalambay also outfoxed Collins with ease. An outstanding operator.
     
  4. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    It was a extremely close fight, Flea. Like splitting hairs tbh. I haven't seen that fight for a while, but i wouldn't have had a problem either way. McCallum tended to be involved in fights that were a nightmare to score against other technicians.

    I agree, Sumbu's win over McCallum in the first was a BIG deal, i don't think it'd be over-exaggerating to call it an outclassing. What makes it more impressive is he was expected to be beaten comfortably against McCallum AND Graham.
     
  5. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    graham in the first fight with kalambay changed his usual fight it was a pre-fight decision kalambay did not really dictate the way graham fought ,graham got his tactics wrong (controversial)
     
  6. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    The truth probabily lies somewhere in the middle. We have to credit Kalambay, his style did off-set Graham and Herol was made to fall into a lot of traps. The prove is you'll probabily never see Herol hit as much. On the other hand Graham did probabily under-estimate Kalambay, there really was nothing apart from a decision over Kalule. There was also a lot of talk before the fight of Herol fighting 'bigger names' in his next bout. Whenever i hear 'he got his tactics wrong' it starts to sound like excuses though. You could use the same excuse for Mike McCallum in his defeat to Sumbu by saying his workrate and output was unsually poor. But that does Kalambay a disservice, there was a reason it was low and that reason was Sumbu Kalambay. It took a while to get use to him even for the best.
     
  7. Nipple

    Nipple I hate my username banned

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    Where would i get a Benn, Eubank, Toney (or basically any top mw and smw of the late 80's/90's) from?
     
  8. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i might be wrong but i think the first kalambay fight when graham had gone with eastwood and i dont think ingle was in the corner and eastwood decided graham needed to be more aggressive. a big mistake in tactics if it works dont fix ,ingle was back in the corner after that
     
  9. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    Mr Butt's your man. :good

    You're right, It was a Ingle/Naz type of flare up. Graham wanted to change management and Ingle disagreed, they also argued about wage percentages. Herol was also having marital problems, that's why i said mentally he may've not been totally right, but he still loses that fight with or without Ingle or arguments with GF/wife. He was forced to change his tactics in the second fight slightly and he did great, but as he was looking past Kalambay he still would've gone in with that aggressive approach in the first.
     
  10. p.Townend

    p.Townend Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Can you do a Hagler one?
     
  11. reddragon

    reddragon New Member Full Member

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    I trade and sell fights,go have a look at my website were you will find all
    the career sets that i've made up from my large fight collection.plus my full fight list

    Would be willing to send you any set first and if your not happy with
    it then send back and pay nothing

    www.boxingfirst.yolasite.com
     
  12. reddragon

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