Best chance of an upset: Pacquiao

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  1. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Is it good enough for Floyd? You might think you're playing mind games, but you're only fooling yourself. JMM is working with the most famous doping chemist and you want to pull the this but you said this or that from 2009?

    You just ignore Memo? You are not interested in the sport, how foul it with this guy in the sport. You know that Memo is banned from all international competition right? He's banned from working with any athlete in the USA. That's why he runs his doping program from his families pharmaco in Mexico.
     
  2. jesse

    jesse Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Im not denying anything youre saying :lol::patsch

    But the pac****s cant have it both ways :yep
     
  3. tarugojones

    tarugojones Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The fact is, Marquez hired a ped dealer.
     
  4. jesse

    jesse Well-Known Member Full Member

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    As have several other boxers in the sport who have never failed a drug test.
     
  5. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lmao, you are just a weasle like them. It's one thing to claim cheating when you have no proof like Mayweather, but it an entirely different thing when JMM is being trained by a professed doping chemist whose family owns a freaking fiving pharmaco lab which produces pharmaceuticals. Memo doesn't hide the fact that fact lmao.


    So it's not the same. You floamos just choose to apply it when its convenient.
     
  6. Anima

    Anima Kinetic Link Full Member

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    I'd like to see JMM/Pac again just for the **** of it. The 2 never fails to bring a quality match.

    All of those has a chance beat Pac except Crawford, Vargas and Garcia and maaaybe Thurman and Brook. But i'd love to see Pac take on those 2.
     
  7. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    "I don't like needles" Pacquiao
     
  8. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Prime example of the classic floamo in action.

    One quote is from a self professed doping expert, the man behind BALCO and iirc that was during interviews while employed by JMM.

    The other is from an innocent Pacquiao, from the El Terrible era.

    Somehow in their logic, it's the same. Being afraid of needles equals absolute proof he was doping. Nevermind we have an actual doping expert admitting to doping working for JMM. JMM is clean no doubt.
     
  9. jesse

    jesse Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And you can't prove a damn thing. Show me conclusive evidence that Marquez has been doping for recent fights. You can be suspicious of him doping like the rest of us, but stating that his conditioning coach is a PED dealer or a picture of him with pimples on his back does not make him guilty of doping. Ill wait.
     
  10. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Where's your proof that Pac is clean and Marquez is dirty?
     
  11. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Still acting like your stupid? The testing for the 5th fight was VADA. JMM won't do VADA testing because Memo is afraid his dope will be detected. VADA uses CIR testing which is a direct test for synthetic testosterone. USADA does not do CIR testing by default and VADA does.

    The question isn't if JMM is cheating. We know he is. The question is if he will prove he's clean by fighting Pac with VADA testing. He will not agree to VADA testing.

    Please follow along...
     
  12. jesse

    jesse Well-Known Member Full Member

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    A potential 5th fight isn't proof to incriminate JMM. I'll keep waiting.
     
  13. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Neither is the fact that he hired the most famous doping chemist who freely admits to having undetectable peds apparently.
     
  14. Anima

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    From a neutral point of view its more likely that Marquez is doping more so than Pacquiao.

    A guy who's never KO'd anybody in years but has had issues in taking more tests vs a guy who hired a known PED expert and has gained a lot of power (at least from my observation)

    I'm not saying Pac is clean but If I were to bet on it then I'd go with JMM who's doping.
     
  15. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    None of it is proof, it's evidence. Proof is video/picture of him doping, an admittance, or a positive test.