Best chances of beating Floyd: Pac or Cotto / margarito Or Williams

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  1. VARG

    VARG Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm going to base this from the quote "You're only as good as your last performance"

    Pac - He completely dismantled DLH and in emphatic fashion. Had he decided to continue for another round, he would've been KO'd for the first time. He feinted, boxed circles, use explosive combinations against a much much bigger man and used the perfect gameplan. The gamplan was due to Roach having already trained Oscar so I can't really say he figured him out on his own. His aggression was controlled. He wasn't off balance so many times. He looked phenomenal. Against Mayweather, I would say that Manny lands the same Straight Left Right Hook combination because of Mayweather's openess to the left side punches. He doesn't cover his body too well neither. The guard Mayweather uses consists of one arm crossing the midsection and the other covering his face. He would give Mayweather INSANE angles which would cause Mayweather some problems to pot shot like he's known for. Depending on what weight they fight at I think Mayweather would only need a few shots to cause Pacman to feel the damage. And once Manny's hurt, he gets reckless. This can either be good or bad. Mayweather loses his cool when under serious pressure. It happened in the last round of the DLH fight and I see this happening throughout the fight between Manny. I give this fight a 45% to Manny and a 55% to FLoyd. FLoyd being the more well-rounded fighter and better counter puncher. I think this will truly test his chin and adaptibility in the ring...as will Manny's

    Cotto - I think the only thing that will affect Cotto in this fight is two things. His stamina and his vulnerability to those damn uppercuts. Mayweather is known for the Right Hook - Left Uppercut combo and this can be quite lethal if accumulated over time. But seeing as how Cotto was never KD by Margarito OR Shane, I don't think this will bother him as much. If this fight WERE to happen, Cotto would be more motivated to win more than ever. His heart and mind would be in the right places and would eat through most if not all the punishment Mayweather dishes out. If Mayweather gets stuck on the ropes like he did against DLH, I don't care how much he blocks it with the same guard he always uses...HE'S TAKING SERIOUS DAMAGE! From then on, I think Mayweather would find himself on the back pedal all night and try to get his shots when he needs to, but find himself on the Cotto-end of a Margarito fight. Cotto would break him down and take him out. Cotto has a tendency to change his style from boxer to puncher from fight to fight. In the SSM fight he wasn't as aggressive and boxed more than anything. In the Zab fight, he was aggressive. SO if Cotto comes in with the boxer's gameplan...he'll lose. If he comes in as the machine we know him to be...he'll win. I give this fight a toss up 50-50.

    Margarito - He's just too damn slow and Mayweather is too smart for Margo. Period. This would EXACTLY be like Baldo fight. Although I will say that I think Margarito would actually be the first man to give Mayweather a legitimate KD, he wouldn't catch Mayweather enough times to win. Mayweather UD. I give the percentages 30-70 in favor of PBF

    Williams - He's similar to Margo, but a bit faster and OBVIOUSLY taller. The height I think would create a HUGE problem for Mayweather. It's one thing to fight a guy who is 5'11...it's another to fight a guy who's 6'2. Williams I think, if he catches Mayweather enough times in the beginning and fights tall and on the outside could not only beat Mayweather, but KO him as well. Mayweather will not try and rush PW in the manner that Quintana did because Quintana has better power and is taller than Mayweather. They carry the same reach but when your shorter it'll take longer reach to hit the head. I think Mayweather, in order to win, would need to steal a page from Manny's book and be the aggressor and push the fight to Williams and dodge his way out of those shots and take Williams to the absolute limit. I think he would also be a willing target because of Mayweather's lack of power for a KD. This would be a points win for Mayweather in this instance. But we all know Mayweather to be a caution first fighter and would most likely LOSE in this fight. I give this fight a 60-40 in favor of Williams
     
  2. NeckBreaknAiken

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    Williams 60%
    Ha haaa... You fools better get off that bull****. Floyd don't want none of that boy. All this Quintana **** is so ****in funny. That was 4 ****in fights ago. And Petey been puttin bitches to sleep since then. Floyd ain't no different. He can run but he can't hide for 12 rounds. Plus, he can never hurt P. KO10

    Margarito 51%
    Margarito ain't no bull**** either. Floyd would take a beating to the body, cause Margo won't touch his damn face. Floyd starts slow, but Margo starts even slower. I give Margo the slight advantage because of his stamina and chin.

    Cotto 20%This fight is a NO-NO FO COTTO! He would get beat to the punch. And he ain't got the style to **** with Floyd. Floyd is basically a Zab upgrade. And Cotto really don't want no more of Zab either, to be honest with you. Cotto can't beat any of the top WW, including Clottey.

    Pac 0%
    Sorry, PacFans. He needs to take his De La Hoya victory and get his ass back to the 140s. He is not welcome in the WW and would get a rude ****in awakening at that level. He has great speed and power, but he has yet to take a solid few punches from anyone at 147. PBF power is sorely underated, and he would find that **** out the hard way, as did Hatton.

    Y'all keep forgettin my other dog...
    Clottey 50%
    Clottey might **** around and spark that fool if he ain't careful. His workrate is a littel shoddy at times, but he has the chin to press forward. And his defense is good enough. They will mix it up once or twice in this fight, and he has a bout a 50% chance of catching Floyd. He starts fast, like Zab. And that will be his best bet.
     
  3. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    thats a good ass assessment!
     
  4. VARG

    VARG Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd make a better one if I had the time to re-watch the fights between all of these fighters over again. But I'm at work so I just made the best assessment I could off the top of my head
     
  5. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    word you hit it on the head..... i dont exactly agree with the %'s but you gave plenty of reason to support your %'s to clear up any confusion