Best chin around in the HWs

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Best chin around in the HWs

Poll closed Nov 7, 2022.
  1. Usyk

    9 vote(s)
    9.4%
  2. Joyce

    54 vote(s)
    56.3%
  3. Fury

    13 vote(s)
    13.5%
  4. Ruiz

    9 vote(s)
    9.4%
  5. Makhmudov

    1 vote(s)
    1.0%
  6. Parker

    4 vote(s)
    4.2%
  7. Zhang

    1 vote(s)
    1.0%
  8. Hrgovic

    5 vote(s)
    5.2%
  1. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury? He's been dropped by Pjalic and Cunnigham.

    It's probably between Parker, Joyce and Ruiz.
     
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  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    The correct answer, providing it's something good or positive, is always Usyk

    Joyce was dropped and stopped by Kuzmin and stopped in a round by Hamza Beguerni and AJ

    Fury was dropped by Cunningham, Pajkic, and The Dosser

    Fat Andy was dropped by AJ and Arreola

    Mak was dropped and stopped by Omarov

    J-Park was dropped by Whyte and Chisora

    Zhang was dropped by Cammarelle, AJ and someone in the pros

    Hrgovic was dropped by Zhang albeit it was a cuffing shot round the back of the mind on a slippery part of the canvas and shouldn't have been counted

    Yes Usyk might be the best defensive boxer out of all of them but he's also fought the most punchers and is the smallest out of all of them and he's taken big shots from the same fighters who have dropped or stopped some of the others and other elite SHWs and HWs

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    Gassiev has knocked out numerous highly ranked HWs in the gym and his power is scary

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    Hughie Fury has never been dropped and he barely blinked after Povetkin walked him into perfect right hand bombs
     
  3. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Still might be Wach.... Seeing Wach finally be dropped was akin to witnessing the most depressing moments in cinema or reading the most gut wrenching moments in literature- the finest chin ever crafted was finally cracked after absorbing inhuman amounts of punishment over the years it was a sad sight for HW fanatics who appreciated Wach for what he is. If the stone masons of legend were to take him back to their workshop and restore it then it's likely still very servicable, but ultimately not the same.
     
  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Well I think Wach earned the distinction of the greatest chin at HW of his generation

    It was sad to see his extremely manly iron mandible finally crack
     
  5. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    and from a nation infamous for it's glassy HW chins!
     
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  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Wach's chin is Brit Level
     
  7. MAD_PIGE0N

    MAD_PIGE0N ... banned Full Member

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    I can't tell if Usyk has a solid chin just because all of his quality fights were against cruisers. True, those people are heavy enough to smash your face, but still, they're up to 90.7 kg. while the heavyweights are more often above 105, some a lot more than that. So I am not saying his chins is not good, but can't tell how good it is.

    Joyce appears to have a solid chin in the pro boxing, but hasn't really been tested by a serious puncher. So I doubt how solid really is looking back to his two knockouts when amateur. True those stoppages in the amateurs are sometimes wrong, but there're a lot of weird things under those rules there. The fact is he got dropped with a head gear even.

    Fury has his knockdowns, can't deny, but when one is that tall is easier to drop. But it's all legit, he was down several times. Still, most of them appear to having caused him nothing serious aside from the ones against Wilder in their third fight. The one in te first actually shows this man has an insane will or is hard to knock down, so I won't tell his chin is granite, but he's hard to get knocked out, it's a fact so far. Wilder's cross is a serious test for everyone, regardless of the fact is Wilder a good or a bad boxer.

    Ruiz - shortly: yes, very hard-head.

    Makhmoudov - can't tell yet, but if he has a decent chin will truly be a monster to face.

    Parker - tested and proven to be solid. The beating he took from Joyce was something that would've knocked out people way earlier than Parker.

    Zhang - I don't know why is that guy here... Better put Pulev for the time he was younger and used to be a hard guy.

    Hrgovic - the grumpy expression on his face seems not to work anymore, the guy was pathetic against Zhang, so has I'd tell he's not hard at all. Imagine him taking punches from AJ, Joyce, Whyte, Chisora even...
     
  8. bulldoze

    bulldoze Member Full Member

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    The thing about Joyce is not that he can withstand a full on shot.

    it is the fact that punches don't even back him up in slightest or even make him check his stride.

    Terminator like.
     
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  9. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Joyce whiskers are most impressive out there albeit caveated against level of opposition.
     
  10. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    Here what you are saying but in fairness Dubois is a big dangerous puncher and Parker, whilst not being the biggest of hitters, was landing flush right hands......... Joyce doesn't even blink he just walks straight through everything.
     
  11. SmackDaBum

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    Do you think that knockdown on Hrgovic had something to do with his chin?
     
  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Usyk 207-221lbs
    Joyce 251-271lbs
    Fury 245-277lbs
    Ruiz 246-297lbs
    Makhmudov 248-264lbs
    Parker 219-255lbs
    Zhang 239-278lbs
    Hrgovic 223-248lbs

    AJ dropped the much heavier Fat Andy but he couldn't drop the much lighter Usyk in 24 rounds

    AJ dropped the much heavier Zhang in the amateurs but he couldn't drop the much lighter Usyk

    Nistor stopped AJ, Wallin, and badly hurt Makhmudov but he couldn't drop Usyk

    Chisora dropped Parker but he couldn't drop the much lighter Usyk

    Fury was dropped by the much lighter Cunningham and Pajkic. Usyk fought a million harder punchers than those guys are

    Killed them with science

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  13. MAD_PIGE0N

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    Being good enough to evade dangerous punches doesn't mean you can take a lot of them. Of course, that's what a fighter aims - hit and not being hit and for most of the time Usyk did it very high level. But that's different from how hard his head is.
     
  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Then he must be the most amazing boxer and defensive specialist ever because he's fought more punchers and KO artists than any other current world champion I can think of since moving up to the world level in his last 10 fights and he fought loads in the amateurs and WSB all of whom in the later are much/way bigger and heavier than him. The funny thing is one of the criticisms I often hear about him is he gets hit. He's never been down from a head shot in 370 fights am and pro despite this. He might be a defensive master albeit strangely he doesn't get recognition for being so, but he also has an excellent chin.
     
  15. MAD_PIGE0N

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    Could be so. Everyone is gifted differently, some can take punches and I mean the hardest ones, without even care, others have different gifts... Others can escape most of the punches. But I won't look at boxing under some mathematical principle like 1+1=2.

    About one being knocked down or not, I don't mean Usyk in particular: there're some who's been down and retired undefeated, there're others who's never been down, but aren't undefeated. As I said, it's not like 1+1=2. But saying all of this, I don't mean anything against Usyk. I just avoid completely glorify whoever fighter (athlete, outside of boxing and martial arts) it is.
     
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