Best chins ever, p4p

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  1. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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    What´s your, let´s say Top 20 in no order? Here´s mine:


    Muhammad Ali
    Marvin Hagler
    George Chuvalo
    Rocky Marciano
    Harry Greb
    Jake LaMotta
    Tony Canzoneri
    James Toney
    Duilio Loi
    Panama Al Brown
    Charles Burley
    Vito Antuofermo
    Sam Langford
    Oliver McCall
    Randall Tex Cobb
    Mike Gibbons
    Freddie Miller
    Dave Shade
    Jack Britton
    Kid Gavilan


    Perhaps I forgot someone...
     
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  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Fine choices. I'd throw Jim Jeffries into the mix. From the modern bunch Calzaghe deserves a mention.
     
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  3. apollack

    apollack Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ray Mercer. In his prime the guy had a rock solid jaw. Watch him take flush bombs from Cooper, Morrison, and Lewis.
     
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  4. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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    Thanks. I thaught about both. But Jeffries faced almost only smaller men, that´s why I didn´t mention him in a p4p- list, where other fighters fought some weight classes above their natural weight and showed their iron chin, and with Calzaghe, well, if I would have made a Top 25-list, we would be in... :D
     
    Luigi1985, Nov 17, 2007
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  5. Manassa

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    Tier 1

    Marvin Hagler
    Jake LaMotta
    Jose Napoles

    Tier 2

    Kid Gavilan
    Carlos Monzon
    Tony Canzoneri

    Tier 3

    Ray Robinson
    Ray Leonard
    Muhammad Ali

    Tier 4

    Emile Griffith
    Ike Williams
    Alexis Arguello

    Tier 5

    Willie Pep
    Joe Louis
    Harold Johnson

    Those would be my above average ratings. As you can see, there are very fine lines between separations.
     
    Manassa, Nov 17, 2007
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  6. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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    I also thaught about him, same with Calzaghe... :D

    but definitely a very good choice...
     
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  7. McGrain

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    Good work Manassa, I agre with Moore's high placing. Louis is to high though. What's your thinking there? Why is his chin better than, say, Mike Tyson's?
     
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  8. Minotauro

    Minotauro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Henry Armstrong even Fritzie Zivic and Battling Nelson deserve a mention.
     
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  9. JohnThomas1

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    Monzon is surely tier 1.
     
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  10. Manassa

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    Ah, but Tyson's chin is better than Louis' ;)

    I just removed Moore in place of Pep, although Moore stays in that tier.

    I believe Louis was quite a durable fighter - more than his knockdown record would imply, at least. He was almost always up within a couple of seconds, and it took a hell of a battering for Schmeling & Marciano to take him out.
     
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  11. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    I would think so, after 100+ fights and after reigning as middleweight champion for years and never having been stopped. That's tier one in my opinion.
     
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  12. Manassa

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    Not quite, a step below. Monzon was knocked down four times in his career to our knowledge and had his brains scrambled by a wicked Briscoe right - which is far more than Hagler had done to him. Monzon was tough as old boots and is only a hair behind, but a hair behind he is. You can argue that Napoles was floored three times in his career and was stopped - but he demonstrated an immense capacity for taking punishment in that loss to Monzon.
     
    Manassa, Nov 17, 2007
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  13. Manassa

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    Do not confuse 'chin' with 'survival skills, defence, determination and resistance to cuts.'
     
    Manassa, Nov 17, 2007
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  14. UndisputedUK

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    Chris Eubank, Steve Collins and Wayne Mcullough.
     
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  15. McGrain

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    Chris Eubank is a great shout. Good luck knocking Eubank out.

    Which tear for Eubank Manassa?
     
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