Best chins ever, p4p

Camacho was never dropped his whole career and he took alot of punishment in fights where he was past his prime. Didnt marciano get dropped by smaller fighters like moore and walcott?

 

Camacho was dropped three times. Reyes, Delahoya, and Trinidad.

 

Ok, my bad, how many times was marciano dropped though. Should i also mention that those 3 guys are all naturally bigger than camacho and he was way past it by then. Marciano was dropped by the smaller moore and walcott, am i not right?

 

... Marciano also ate a lot more punches than Camacho. Say the latter had better survival skills if you will, but Marciano had more raw durability.

 

Camacho has taken alot of flush shots, i would put him in a top 20 p4p chin for sure. Getting dropped when your 4 wieght classes above your natural weight, that shouldnt tarnish your chin at all. Getting dropped by smaller guys should.

 

Well not really. Walcott outweighed him by over ten ounds, and Moore weighed the same, 188.

 

He didnt eat alot of punches from many heavyweights that were big and devastating hitters though, most of his opponents were well below the 200 lbs mark. As a heavyweight marciano had a very good chin, but p4p, i wouldnt say that.

 

Moore and walcott started out at smaller weights, lol. Is james toney a natural big guy, i mean he weighs 230 now.

 

Walcott had been at that weight for years, and Moore had campained as a heavy for a while, and always had to dry out by then to get to 175. By that time, he was probably more comfortable at that weight. Toney is different. He ate himself out of his best weight.

 

Yeah but as they go up in weight, thier chin decreases and thier punching power decreases. Bob Foster and Mike Spinks would be perfect examples. Trinidad was a welterweight, camacho was a super featherweight, getting dropped by him is not as bad as getting dropped by a guy that was light heavyweight champion when he fought you as a heavyweight.

 

to be honest I don't think the Foster and Spinks examples are good. Your talking about fighters there that were still natural to 175 and tried to pack on pounds in a hurry to try for the heavies. Of course that won't work as well as it would if you do it gradually and let it just happen because your body has to grow as you get older. There's a big difference there. That's what happened with Camacho. He wasn't a superfeather when he fought Trinidad, hadnt been for years. He was getting older and his body developed, as most do. Its unfair to call him just a superfeather then. He had been dominating lightweights, then junior welters along the way. Nice trick for a little 130 pounder.

 

When tito and camacho fought though, you could clearly tell who was the bigger man. Bob foster and spinks fought holmes, tyson, ali and frazier though, thats 4 of the best ever.

 

Honestly, it depends on your definiton of 'chin'. Camacho is very fast, while marciano is significantly slower, obviously camacho is not going to just stand there to be hit. However i have seen him take flush shots throughout his career and i know he has a great chin. If you have speed, you use it to your advantage.

 

Tito was bigger than Oba Carr and Larry Barnes too. He was bigger than most.

I agree that Foster and Spinks weren't as effective heavier, but thats a totally different reason for that.