Best chins ever, p4p

I agree. Having seen a good 30 minutes of the fight (as you have), I didn't notice Armstrong going any easier on Ross down the stretch. Of course I could be wrong, but from appearances, it didn't look like he went easy on him.

 

Wrong. He certainly achieved the most at 147lbs, but was a small welterweight - at 140lbs he was a more fearsome, youthful puncher.

 

How many fights of Naploes you seen at 140lbs?

 

Napoles wasn't a middleweight champion, though you might have made a typing error.

 

Yep, I was thinking the same. Monzon handed him his ass.

 

You know full well I haven't seen any, and neither have most other people (some limited rare footage exists) - I, just like others, go on what witnesses have said. That Napoles was better when he was lighter.

 

I've seen his second fights with Adolph Pruitt and Al Urbina, and he looks much the same there as he did as a welter, just perhaps a tad quicker than in his welterweight days.

 

Was just curious. Kinda knew the footage of him from the 1960's at 140lbs was limited, but how limited I wasn't sure. Napoles against Pryor at 140lbs would have been a barnburner.

 

... And we can guess his power and chin were slightly better relative to his weight. Fractionally more agile, had a tiny bit more stamina (less weight to carry)... All adds up though.

 

It pays to read a thread before responding to it. But we must be on drugs to be able to do that.

 

That's true.

 

Fighters who get dumped on their ass don't get a mention among the top tier "best chins ever".

 

Sometimes it doesn't all add up. Fighters have been known to move up a weight or two and increase speed. Mainly due to weight making difficulties more than anything else. Mosley was a fighter who jumped from lightweight to welterweight and he got quicker. Although he fought at lightweight throughout most of his 20's, it was always a struggle for him, always.

Napoles' case a different matter no doubt. He was probably always comfortable at 140lbs, but seen bigger purses 7lbs north. Hence, you stating he was a small welterweight.

 

Come on. Chavez did get dumped on his ass, 14 years into his career! It was also only a flash knockdown that was a flush right hand straight to his chin. In his peak years, he was one fighter that you'd guarantee to finish the fight, in fact I don't recall even seeing him wobbled. Definently worth a mention as one of the best chins ever.


Also I just watched Monzon-Napoles, wow. What a chin Napoles had. Those shots he took in the 5th and 6th rounds were enormous and he didn't go down! Great great chin.

 

Chavez had a great chin in his prime. But what seperates the great chins from the very good ones, not going down no matter what stage you are at in your career.

Chavez was dropped against Randall and Tszyu. It works against him.

I never said Chavez had weak whiskers, he just aint at the top of the tree.