Best Combined Fighter/Trainer Record

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  1. Beekeeper

    Beekeeper Bedtime Story, Aoki Style Full Member

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    Yuki Nakai

    Fighter - Feared fighter in Japan, almost won a Vale Tudo tounament before his eye was gouged out. Still went on to win the fight, another one, before losing to Rickson in the last fight of his career.

    Trainer - Continued teaching his brand of aggressive JJ at his school, helping hone the skills of JJ savants Masakatsu Ueda and of course, Shinya Aoki



    Ken Shamrock

    Fighter - His career included being a Pancrase and UFC champion, still fighting, James Toney being his next opponent.

    Trainer - Has trained his brother Frank, Guy Metzger and TUF winner Roy Nelson


    Renzo Gracie

    Fighter - Interesting MMA career including a Rings final

    Trainer - Worked with GSP, Serra and Frankie Edgar among others



    I am sure there are many others that I a missing so feel free to add
     
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  2. Stoo

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    I knew Nakai would be the 1st thing Id read here, talk about reflected glory
     
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  3. Beekeeper

    Beekeeper Bedtime Story, Aoki Style Full Member

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    I will just assume you mean that as a compliment to both Nakai and Aoki, lalalalalalalalalalala
     
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  4. Stoo

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    Nakai is one of my hero's and I admire some of Aoki's ground work
     
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  5. One Punch KO

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    Erik Paulson maybe?

    He fought back in the Dark Ages of MMA, going 11-4-2, becoming the Shooto light heavyweight champion and holding the title for five years. Paulson went on to found Combat Submission Wrestling, training and coaching the likes of Josh Barnett, Ken Shamrock, Sean Sherk, Brock Lesnar and Babalu Sobral.
     
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  6. Stoo

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    Well I'll add a few

    Hammer House
    Obviously a Mark Coleman brain child and trained fighters like Randleman, Baroni, Sherk and Simms

    and Chute Boxe
    Founded by Rudimar Fedrigo and produces a who's who of Brazilians in Marcello (also BJJ coach) Wanderlei, Ninja, Shogun, Anderson, Gonzaga, Pele, Chris and Evangilista Cyborg and Thiago Silva

    Brazilian Top Team
    Founded by former UFC Champ Marilo Bustamante with Mario Sperry and produced/trained the Nog brothers, Paul Harris, Belfort, Franca, Paulo Filho, and BigFoot
     
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  7. Beekeeper

    Beekeeper Bedtime Story, Aoki Style Full Member

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    Have not heard of him but that is a good list of fighters
     
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  8. Beekeeper

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    How was Rudimar as a fighter?
     
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  9. Stoo

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    Im not sure tbh, but I think the Chute Boxe team as a whole took on training duties with a fighter with a bout coming up, for example Wand taking Shogun under his wing

    And Rafa Cordeiro turned striking trainer for most of these guys after his career ended
     
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  10. Beekeeper

    Beekeeper Bedtime Story, Aoki Style Full Member

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    Maybe Wand can work his way into this list when he decides to stop with the fighting thing
     
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  11. Stoo

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    His gym looks top notch, he needs to retire now
     
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  12. One Punch KO

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    I remember there were a few promising young fighters on Wand Fight Team, can't recall the names though.

    That's why there ought to be an MMA version of Boxrec: you could place prospects on a watch list when you find out about them, and then follow their careers from there. Trying to chart a fighter's progress though a multitude of regional promotions is just a waste of time at the moment.
     
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  13. Beekeeper

    Beekeeper Bedtime Story, Aoki Style Full Member

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    Well Boxrec is good at stats, but its really hard to evaluate up and coming fighters even with that, how many boxers look like **** after they step in with someone who is very good or look spectacular with so-so looking records, look at Sergio Martinez for example,

    With MMA it gets even more tricky with so many styles involved.
     
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  14. Stoo

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    Rewatching the SF card and realised there's one glaring omission

    Anyone guess?
     
    Stoo, Sep 15, 2011
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  15. cross_trainer

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    Jon Bluming. At one point, he might have simultaneously been one of the world's best judoka and the world's best kyokushin karateka. Went on to train Willem Ruska (2x Olympic gold medalist in judo) and Semmy Schilt, among others.

    William Muldoon. American Greco-Roman wrestling champion and boxer who clobbered John L. Sullivan in a mixed match. Trained Sullivan for his fight against Jake Kilrain, and continued to influence New York sports for almost half a century after his retirement.
     
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