Best Conditioned HW of All-Time?

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  1. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Ali in the 60's for me. He could have boxed and moved like a lightweight for 30 rounds if required. it is why I think he would beat every heavyweight today

    Then Mike Tyson followed by Frazier
    Mike's style burns a lot of energy, he had to be in SUPREME condition to fight in that style

    Marciano was relentless and Usyk/Holyfield also deserve a mention
    What about big Ike? Look how many punches he and Tua threw over 12 rounds?

    Honestly there are too many to mention. The Heavyweight's now bar Usyk are a joke
     
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    The Cryptkeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Holyfield was ripped when he was in his prime.

    Ken Norton too.
     
  3. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    Many of today’s hw’s would be cruisers if they trained like the old guys.
     
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  4. Malph

    Malph Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Vlad tended to gas. Looking great and having great stamina are two different things.
     
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  5. Malph

    Malph Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Holyfield'a conditioning was roiddiculous.
     
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    Wlad did improve his conditioning after that tbf. But yeah Wlad is not going to have the stamina of some the lighter guys but it was pretty good.
     
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    Malph Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Vlad learned to conserve his energy more than anything.
     
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    OddR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Probably a mixture of both.
     
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    First of all I am only gonna stick to modern guys because the historical guys...........................a journeymen we've never heard of probably eclipses the monster conditioned contemporary guys, it simply isn't fair.

    I'd say in my lifetime Holyfield.

    I see some people saying Marciano and he looked to be a real horse but how often did he really go late? Like Evander was going 12 constantly and firing all he had. Rocky for the most part had already ended guys before the championship rounds no?
     
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    After that fight, his punch output was reduced and regulated. Worked out good for him in the end. I just remember Roy Jones saying during the fight that Wlad was too big. LOL
     
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    Usyk = Can fight at a good pace whilst constantly using movement and angles.

    Norton = Probably has one of the best physiques ever and was a very strong 15 round fighter who didn't tire.

    Prime Ali = Could bounce on his toe for 15 rounds also very athletic.

    Marciano/Frazier = Two swarmers with high engines who never stop punching.

    Ibeabuchi = Broke the compubox record for for the most punches thrown in a Heavyweight fight for a big man he had a fantastic engine.

    Joyce = This may surprise some people but in regards to Super Heavyweights he has arguably the best stamina he can throw 70/80 punches a round and even managed over 100 punches in 1 round vs Parker.
     
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    We didn’t see enough of Ike Ibeabuchi but he was in great shape, too bad he went crazy.
     
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    "Way to go, Malph!"
     
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    Ali, Tyson, Marciano