Best counterpuncher in Heavyweight class (All-time)

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  1. luke

    luke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    james toney/ken norton
     
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  2. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Rated by counter punching technique at heavyweight :

    Arnold Cream , Oliver McCall , Corrie Sanders , David Tua , James Toney / Orlin Norris

    Akinwande , Tucker , Puritty , Tillis and McCline will remain under8ed as well .
     
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  3. MrBumboclart

    MrBumboclart Active Member Full Member

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    Mike Tyson. By far.
     
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  4. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jack Johnson
    Joe Louis
    Ezzard Charles
    Jimmy Young
    Mike Tyson/Ken Norton
     
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  5. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Another guy not mentioned is Marciano. He is not given credit for it but the guy was a top notch counter puncher in there. The thing with Rocky was he did something the other counter punchers didn't--Rocky countered to the body. Beautiful to watch.
     
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  6. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Larry Holmes or Gene Tunney.
     
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  7. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Max Schmeling in his 1st fight with Louis.
     
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  8. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    I have to go with Jimmy Young as well.
     
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  9. Andrei00

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    Gene Tunney seems very interesting from the short footage of him I managed to found. I'd love to see more. But for those who know him better than I do, how would you rank him in an all-time top10 heavyweights?
     
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  10. PhillyPhan69

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    Outside of the top 20, for me....Perhaps top 30? but I am not certain. He had to small of a body of work at HW for me....I do rate him top 3 at LHW.
     
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  11. Andrei00

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    I understand it, but outside of top20 just because he doesn't have the average weight or body for a heavyweight seem like a pretty big reach for me. Patterson wasn't much of a heavyweight either, but most of the people rank him at least top15-20.
     
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  12. PhillyPhan69

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    Patterson had a much longer body of work at HW. I rank Patterson in the 15-20 rang along w/ Walcott & Charles....H2H would be interesting, but i feel that Pattersons HW stint was more conclusive than gene's although you and/or others may disagree??? I can see anyway Gene cracks the top 20 based upon 2 wins over a faded dempsey (I don't mean to take anything away from Gene as I like him alot, perhaps more.)
     
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  13. Andrei00

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    Not sure what you mean by 'body of work', cause boxrec has both of them at 6'0" height, but Tunney has a 5" longer reach. However, I agree that Floyd fought more pure heavyweights than Gene, but I guess it's not that weird since they fought in 2 really different eras. For example, Sam Langford was 5'6" and weighed about 185 lbs in his prime.
     
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  14. Son of Gaul

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    Bingo. Anyone who questions Quarry's right to be in the discussion needs to rewatch his fights with Spencer, Mathis and Lyle...3 really solid HWs who Jerry Boy dominated.
     
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  15. Son of Gaul

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    :think...examples?
     
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