best defense fighter of all time, who do you think

Corley stunned him. Maybe Judah in the 4th round.

Another thing that factors in this is that after he gets hit, he's great at avoiding that second shot. Hit him once and he slips the others.

Also, he's very aware in the ring, so he's more likely to see the punches coming. I don't think he saw the Corley punch coming, it came from a strange angle.

 

Now that's a myth.

 

Floyd Mayweather

The scene that is boxing did a study of 18 Floyd Mayweather title fights, and 18 taken from Roy Jones Jr 93-2002 and Sweet Pea 89-96 and found that Floyd had a plus +24 on punches landed to his opponent, Jones had a +20, and Sweet Pea had a +16.

Keep in mind Sweet Pea threw about 20 more punches per round then Floyd so he was busier, thus leaving himself open to get it more, but regardless, with Floyd having a connect percentage of 46%, his opponents 22%. He's my choice for best defensive fighter ever.

Also, Whitaker and Roy Jones defenses relied alot on their athleticism and speed. Roy alot more so then Whitaker. Floyd is technically great. Who I think will still be an outstanding defensive fighter longer in his career then Whitaker and Roy.

 

he didnt throw a punch. I dont know if you agree with that being great D or running though

 

Most likely, it's just a myth that Pep won a round against Jackie Graves without throwing a punch.

Maybe he did it against someone else, but the round when he supposedly threw no punches and won the round against Graves....a researcher for the IBRO looked at the newspaper accounts and during that round, it was described as a great two-way action round.

 

oh yeah, the poster didnt say a name though. but yeah, it was a video on youtube showing that round

 

Floyd all day...
Floyd has a short torso with long forearms that defend so much space. His body fits naturally into his shell.

 

and his shoulder roll is perfect

 

:good that guy gets my vote...

but on that poll...ima go with Winky...that guy has MASTERED that crab like ****...i havent seen another boxer that can shell themselves like that...

 

yes and combine it all with a cool head that can let off very accurate counterpunches and you have a defensive genious.

 

Now keep in mind that Whitaker's level of competition was way higher and that he didn't run and pot shot and that he had the balls to actually fight when past his prime, against great fighters, and you can throw those statistics out the window. :good

Whitaker is a better defensive fighter than Floyd and all one has to do is watch film and it's obvious.

 

He has, it's just never been counted. Both Castillo and Judah put him down legit.

 

The statistics are from his fights before 1997. So his fights with Oscar, Tito and Hurtado are not included. And its not like Jacobs, Rivera, and Rodriguez were top flight opponents either. Whitakers resume is filled with far more journeymen then Floyds. So way better would be a stretch. Floyd wont be losing a step at 32 like Whitaker was at 32. Due to the fact his defense relies less on reaction and speed and more on technical ability.

Now, they've both had their great moments. But unlike Whitaker, Floyd was never really dropped. A flash KD against Judah when he was caught off balance and touched his glove to the mat that was so fast it wasnt even counted and thats about it.

 

Whitaker was already on the way out against Jacobs, Rivera and Rodriguez.

Floyd won't be losing a step at 32 because he probably won't even be fighting at 32. Should be into his 4th retirement by then.

If he doesn't do drugs like Pea did, he should remain healthy though.

Castillo knocked him down when he broke his ribs. Can't believe they didn't count that. Floyd was not only down but hurt right there.

 

Whitaker has fought guys like Nelson, Chavez and McGirt, who were all better at the stage he fought them than anyone Mayweather has faced in his career. You can add Julio Cesar Vasquez as well to that list if you consider the fact that Whitaker was 3 weight divisions up when he beat him. That win alone is more impressive to me than anything Floyd has done.

As for Floyd relying less on speed and reaction times, well that remains to be seen. If Floyd slows down a tad I can see him getting pummeled against a good aggressive body puncher. Perhaps time will tell - if he actually decides to fight till he gets to that stage.