The first time I watched Whitaker v Ramirez II, I couldn't stop laughing. It was outright "ownage" beyond belief. And the the Nelson performance, my favourite.
Yeah, for me Pea-Ramirez II brought a mixture of amazement, laughter and sympathy for JLR who was being humiliated on all fronts. Got to hand it to him for staying stoic and resolute to the very end. Lesser men would have quit that night.
Sweet Pea definetly accomplished more at lightweight. His fights with ramirez, nelson, haugen, mayweather, pendleton, and paez were against world class comp. Duran fought a shitload of bums other than a few good fighters. Duran best wins at that weight are against buchanon, de jesus, ishimatsu, marcel and kobayashi. Whitaker has the better LW resume.
Hopkins is brilliant technically for sure. Not a big fan but Toney has some great defense when on song. Maybe not in this league. RJJ in his peak was almost unhittable for big periods.
RJJ is a very good call. His evasiveness gets overlooked somewhat in light of the Tarver and Johnson losses,but prior to these how much punishment did he take? The answer is stuff all. He fought fights where the opponents punchstats were in single figures over a number of rounds.The Pazienza fight is a good example as he could only land something like seven punches over three rounds against Roy.Never minding Vinny being overmatched this is still astounding. Even Hopkins had a sub-20% connect rate against Roy and he was seen to have performed well against him. His defense whether it was reliant on his reflexes or not was still outstanding.