Best dirty headmaster, The Executioner or The Real Deal?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Smoochie, Oct 25, 2024.


Who used da' cranium better?

  1. B-Hop

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  2. Evan Fields

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  1. Smoochie

    Smoochie G.R.E.B G.O.A.T Full Member

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    "Accidental headbutts" and their names don't belong in the same sentence, which was more crafty and elusive when usin' their third weapon in tha ring?
     
  2. Smoochie

    Smoochie G.R.E.B G.O.A.T Full Member

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    ok nvm I choose Holyfield because I don't actually remember Hopkins leaving an opponent like that lmao
     
  3. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    This is what Hopkins never did:

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  4. SonnyListon>

    SonnyListon> #1 Sonny Liston fan Full Member

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    Holyfields ninja turtle head sure did make a great weapon… he was a great master of it as well
     
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  5. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Evander is the greatest of all time bar none utilizing the "billy goat strike"
     
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  6. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The one that made the other guy so mad that he ended up having one of his ear bitten off.
     
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  7. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    I bet Rahman had a bloody headache for weeks after that fight lol.
    Can't exactly say that was an accidental head butt really!
     
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  8. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Holy dirtier with his head. BHop everything else.
     
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  9. Anubis

    Anubis Boxing Addict

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    Rahman could've played Maccus in the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise after what Holy-roid did to Hasim, but the Real Meal did win the TD in eight rounds because of that.

    After another such headbutt ending in the early 1987 where Donald Curry justly won by DQ over Tony Montgomery, he rightly acknowledged that his head was available to be butted, and that self defense means self defense, even against any foul attempts, since cheating wins fights. (This is part of the reason Locche is still the GOAT defensive master. Nicolino had a huge melon, yet not one of the 15 stoppage wins in his 136 career bouts was reportedly ever butt induced. This is in extreme contrast to Antuofermo who always complained about butting. Vito was credited during his career for being a vastly underrated defensive fighter, but sorry. Defending against butts is a part of the art. Marciano led with his right glove, not his head, and it paid off. ALL of Rocky's bouts were extremely well documented, and butts were not a factor in any of them.)

    Bottom line is that Evanderoid got away with it and won because of it. As for Tyson biting him, he said he'd done the same thing in amateur competition away from worldwide media glare. (Incidentally, I do not consider Tyson or Liston to have been dirty fighters. Machen deliberately fouled Sonny like crazy, while Liston only hit low trying to get under Crazy Eddie's textbook high guard. But Machen infuriated Sonny by blatantly hitting on the break yet was not penalized for it when he should've been. And I only ever saw Mike do it in retaliation. The trouble with both Liston and Tyson is that one could easily get under their skins by doing this. I'm amazed Mike didn't retaliate for Bonecrusher's incessant clutching and stalling, but this is probably because, as mad as Tyson got, Mills Lane did deduct a couple points from Bonecrusher for this. But as should've been the case with Harry Gibb in Bonecrusher-Bruno, Lane should've declared a TKO loss, because Bonecrusher wasn't competing either time.)
     
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  10. Terror

    Terror free smoke Full Member

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    Ward

    But probably Evander
     
  11. slash

    slash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That dummy Rahman shouldn't have started it .. with the headbutts, like he did. He didn't really know how to do it.
     
  12. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    I have to go with Holyfield based as much on quantity as quality. I think headbutting was almost a part of Evander's regular strategy while B-Hop butted mostly when if the situation happened to call for it.
     
  13. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 MONZON VS HAGLER 2025 banned Full Member

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    “Dirty head master” wtf? :sisi1
     
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  15. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Love both as fighters but when it comes to the headbutt game, Holyfield is the GOAT.
     
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