Best ever European middleweight?

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  1. TragicMagic

    TragicMagic New Member Full Member

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    Well, there’s Fitzsimmons, Turpin, Marcel Cerdan and Laszlo Papp. But if his story checks out, which is doubtful nowadays, Salamo Arouch would take the cake. Won the Balkan middleweight title, his pro career was cut short by the holocaust. He was forced into fighting to entertain Nazi officers in a concentration camp. There were no breaks between rounds and boxers were forced to fight until one was unable to physically unable to continue. Despite being malnourished, deprived of water and a break between rounds, Arouch claims to have had up to 230 wins without a loss whilst imprisoned.
     
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  2. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Lazlo Papp has to be up there.
    3x Olympic Gold medalist and then European champion(when that belt actually meant a damn)
    Never got to compete for the world title due to communism...
     
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  3. Up the gut

    Up the gut Active Member banned Full Member

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    I think the chances are a bit more than "might do" here, GGG's chin takes away Benns best attribute and add in to the fact GGG is way more skilled with power and its not nice for Benn. Benn didn't box as much at 160 like he did at 168, he wasn't a 12 round fighter at 160 either
     
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  4. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    What about kalamby?

    He represented Italy?

    Can’t discount sturm....
     
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  5. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Randy Turpin? I mean he beat a prime-ish Sugar Ray. *Shrugs*
     
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  6. marting

    marting Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I would say Cerdan.
     
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  7. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    László Papp comes to mind
     
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  8. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    To be 100% purist, if I remeber correctly cerdan is african, he was born in algeria.

    EDIT: Double checked, yes, he was born in Sidi Bel Abbes, Algeria.
     
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  9. deyell

    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

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    In terms of skill: Dmitry Pirog.
     
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  10. Can I box

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    He’s the guy GGG was gonna spark out.
     
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  11. Oneirokritis

    Oneirokritis The Scourge of Stupid Idiots. Full Member

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    Sugar Ray was fresh off beating Jake LaMotta for the Middleweight championship of the world, and was conducting a European tour during which Turpin fought and beat him. So yes, that was prime Sugar Ray Robinson.
     
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  12. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Cerdan would have destroyed Eastman and probably would have beat LaMotta if his arm didn`t get injured.
     
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  13. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Cerdan would have toyed with Collins.
     
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  14. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Eubank Jr is nowhere near the top 10 out of Euro middles, Graham would have outboxed him, Turpin did far better v Robi than Eubank would have, Saunders from the Lem fight would have toyed with Chris. Tony Sibson and Alan Minter may have beaten Chris.
     
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  15. alangjk

    alangjk Active Member Full Member

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    Not real life or anything but still worth a mention.

    Bob Fitzsimmons is highest rated European middleweight in title bout boxing. Looks to be by a pretty good distance.
     
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