Best ever in each weight class H2H

I disagree with you picks at lhw, mw and fw. It has to be Charles-Moore and we all know how these fights ended. At mw imo Monzon-Greb - Hagler, Hopkins, Walker, Robinson, Cerdan would be close but h2h imo these two are a bit better. At fw imo it´s Pep vs. Saddler and these fights happen also in reality.

 

You can't just pick the 2 best guys at each weight. I mean Ali and Louis are mine and most peoples picks for #1 and #2 ATG heavyweights, but in terms of H2H, have you considered the likes of Lewis, Liston, Johnson, Holmes, Dempsey?

 

I've come to the conculsion that Bill Butcher must be Erik Morales himself

 

Ah I see. Apologies for the misunderstanding.

Still, as great as he was, you rate Sanchez above guys like Saddler and McGovern at featherweight?

Personally I'd have Mayweather in the top 2 at super-feather aswell. I rate Whitaker extremely higher aswell on a p4p scale, though personally I would have Benny Leonard, Joe Gans, perhaps even the likes of Ortiz, Williams and Canzoneri above him at 135. Whitaker-Duran is an intrigueing match-up though.

 

Based on resumes than surely, but based on skills and ability, as well as dominance, he's with or above any of them.

 

Oh absolutely.

I'm pretty confused with this now.

Is this based purely on ability or including not only ability but H2H and resume in finding the 2 best fighters at each weight and then matching them?

 

For MW i'd go with Monzon vs Hagler (i'll catch **** for this but I believe Monzon would edge him out). And then the winner faces Harry Greb for title of greatest middleweight ever. Imagine the epicness

 

I'd assume the second. I will usually only include ability when we're dealing with the same era(as in modern or pre-modern era). Otherwise, when compiling an all-time list, it's mostly on resume and ability in their respective eras.

 

I agree with Monzon over Hagler.

 

Ali vs Louis
Spinks vs Charles
Jones vs Calzaghe
Monzon vs Robinson
Hearns vs McCallum
Robinson vs Leonard
Pryor vs Chavez
Duran vs Armstrong
Arguello vs Mayweather
Pep vs Armstrong
Gomez vs Fenech
Jofre vs Zarate
Wilde vs Villa

 

You think Fenech would beat Gomez? Wilfredo ate up really aggressive guys at 122lbs I think he is all wrong for Jeff who would eat a lot of huge shots. Jofre would stand a better chance if he fought at 122 due to his style.

 

I think Fenech would smother his power to a large extent, and bother him with total lack of respect and rough house tactics. Gomez always dictated at JF, the first fight he didn't was vs Sanchez. Tho obviously different fighters Fenech would show the same confidence and self belief. I think Fenech would do loads of damage H2H from Bantam to Feather. Gomez is an incredible fighter and would enter a narrow but firm fave, but i have the feeling Fenech could prevail. His intensity, confidence and strength was unreal around this weight and time. He'd be on Gomez and all over him in the blink of an eye, never letting up or conceding room. Gomez might punish him off but i'm backing Fenech.