Best examples of "textbook" fighters schooling unorthodox fighters.

Bradley Witter? WTF.. never

Zab Witter is better.

 

Didn't Witter take that one at short notice in place of someone who pulled out or something?

 

This and Barrera-Hamed were the first two that came to mind for me.

 

I'm not sure of the background towards the fight, just seen it.

That was when Zab looked like he could be something special

 

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Williams wasn't schooled in that fight. 7-5 or 8-4 isn't a schooling.:deal

 

Neither is he really unorthodox in a true way.

 

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Hard to top Barrera/Hamed.

Man, it brings back memories.

Thoughts upon viewing the clip at the start of the thread:

1) People who say Hamed had a glass chin (noted morons such as Spadafora) should be directed to this clip. He took shot after shot, and some of those really looked like they had venom in them, despite being mostly counters off the back foot. Honestly, he really took a beating when you consider how many hit him.

2) Prime Barrera is lovely. Khan is very lucky that he's not going to face that guy. Everything Hamed tried just flopped. Barrera was faster, moved better, out-countered him easily, showed off a large diversity of punches, maintained poise and yet knew exactly when to throw the really venomous shots. Hell, everything was better. Hamed just looked like he was going for one big shot, threw ineffectual jabs, kept using the 'hands down' style even when taking a beating, and had no idea to even sting Barrera, let alone do serious damage. The fact that he bloodied Barrera's nose is a marvel in itself -- I have no clue how that happened when I barely saw Barrera get even touched by Hamed's punches.

3) Hamed looked more hurt than he actually was on various occasions. He actually throws himself back when shots hit him, and this serves to soak up some of their power like a sponge -- the result is that he keeps getting hit, but he's able to divert some of the pop from the firepower coming his way. It's an interesting tactic, but it only helps him lessen damage. When it comes to points, the punches are still scoring, regardless of how much it hurts Hamed. It also looks far worse to the judges/audience, because Hamed's body flops all over the place when he throws himself around trying to get away, and the punches don't help either. I think Kevin Kelley commented on this tactic after their fight, actually. Here we go:

'[FONT=times new roman, times, serif]When you hit him as he moves back, it's like punching a giant sponge.'

(http://www.salon.com/news/sports/col/barra/2000/08/25/boxing/)

This style probably helped Hamed to avoid getting knocked out by Barrera. He was still hurt though -- I remember seeing him unsteady for a moment after a particularly great counter on the chin.

4) Although this fight is normally regarded as a triumph for pure boxing and Good vs Evil, etc, I actually wish it had come later. Don't get me wrong, Hamed certainly had this coming -- just look at how he endlessly mocked Robinson, for one example -- but I find myself regretting how he never fought Pacman and Morales. He was one of the most entertaining fighters that I've ever seen (and also one of the most talented) so I can't help but miss the guy. The sport was more interesting with him around.




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Good analysis. I do not however, miss him - but will never forget that ring entrance on the 'flying' carpet. That was something else!

P.S. Cool avatar

 

Not really, Witter was way out of his depth in terms of experience when he took that fight.

Do brawlers count as unorthodox?

Mijires - Arce
DLH - Mayorga

 

OK so Witter wasn't schooled. I did enjoy seeing his stupid style picked apart by someone who just came forward trying to knock his head off.

 

No, no - it definitely was the same Naz.

 

Nah

he wasnt as far off his best as some people make out but he was nowhere near as elusive as he used to be and like the above guy said was just looking to land one of his bombs and that was his entire gameplan.

 

Could you call an early Nigel Benn " unorthodox " ? If so this one fits the bill.......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DgsDran0Hc