Having reviewed Boxrec once more, I now find this to be quite funny too. No, what is this thing, percentage? :huh I was the first one to mention his name and I think I put it in the correct context from the beginning. "Not pillow hands, but not rock hands either". Too right, brother. I know absolutely nothing about fighters from that era...I hope to one day invest some time and energy into rectifying this however.
Yes, that's fair enough. And if we're talking about ATGs as only men who would make the usual top 10s and top 20s p4p of all-time, then Pep would be one of the choices who fits that bill. And I'd say Greb too. Because the top guys are almost all pretty good or great punchers. But the term "P4P All-Time Great" extends a bit further, I think. And a lot of postors here know that, so I reckon we can talk about a few fighters who were really softer punches maybe. Then again, maybe it's correct to just concentrate on the top 10 or 20. I guess it depends on how you interpret the question.
Absolutely. I usually don't get involved with threads like this, but I figured that Pep was a pretty light hitter considering how highly he is typically ranked. I'm not saying he's the definitive choice, was just throwing it out there...some people seem to have gotten a little offended, though. I think I'll stay away from these grown up discussions in future. :yep:good
Jeff Fenech was feather fisted. But he made up for it with his work rate and super human strength outlasting his opponents.
Again, Barney Ross. A slightly higher KO percentage than a few of these shouts, but rarely against quality opposition, and if so often of the TKO variety. Just a very well rounded pure boxer. A less flashy, orthodox Whitaker in that sense.
Willie Pep is one of the best combination punchers of all time. It's what allowed him to outpoint pretty much every fighter he ever faced. His offense as a whole is underrated. In terms of one punch power, he lacked PoP..but he was a very fluid combination puncher.
I drove my car an extra 50 miles so I would get better mileage per gallon. And Greb had more than a hundred fights blind in one eye if memory serves.
I wouldnt say he was. He knocked guys cold and put on some career ending beatdowns. But he had major hand trouble which caused him to change how much he torqued up his punches. In this context I wouldnt consider him featherfisted...though he was never a big pure puncher, especially later in his career.
Im not to concerned about KO percentages to tell you the truth. Especially in regards to Greb, where we cant really verify by sight how the fights played out. Some of the more detailed accounts of his fights against some of his opponents talk of how badly he beat them down, causing all sorts of visible damage. Ive had the whole KO % discussion before in regards to Emile Griffith...who some have asserted was a soft puncher because of his numbers, but we all know thats not the full story. The term "featherfisted" is a bit hard for me to define, I don't know where to draw the line.
I was just about to post something almost identical. Fenech had solid power tho never a one punch guy, and his main power leak was simply bad hands.