1. Marquez drank his own urine to gain an advantage so let's not pretended he wasn't roided to the gills in IV. 2. Manny won fight I but a judge incorrectly missed scoring a KD resulting in a draw Manny won the series with Marquez 3-1. Without the Manny fights what would Marquez be remembered for? Getting absolutely tooled by Mayweather and Bradley? Going life and death with Katsidis? Manny won 3-1. Why are you proud of Marquez? Does losing 3-1 constitute success in your culture?
You basically said nothing and the fact that you resulted to insults clearly indicates you're butthurt 'tar d. If you want to cling to the "styles make fights" defense, why do you apply that only to Marquez's rivalry over Pac. Was Pac better than Barrera or did he "just have his number", you know, "styles make fights" and all.
I never brought up "triangle theories", I clearly stated H2H. You can make an argument that Pac had the better resume, but based on all the points I stated earlier he was clearly the lesser of the two in a H2H situation.
You cant mate Pacs resume is full of Great names, but lets once again (for the 100th time) look at them Cotto - Weightdrained and coming off a career ruining beatdown Margarito - Weightdrained and coming off a career ruining beatdown Hatton - Battered by puny puncher Lazcano and lost to Collazo Mosely - "he's too good for us" cried the little gerbil. Then Floyd annihilated him and suddenly the gerbil took the fight The two ATG on his resume... Marquez - arguably 0-4 Mayweather - ENSURED he came in clean and humiliated him Pooch is a ****ing disgrace, a complete fake who's bought in so many sheeple (Let us not forget this God abiding hero cheated on his wife and thought roosters clawing one another to death was entertainment)
Sorry, JMM's claim to fame is Pac. And he roided in 2 of 4 contests. JMM is a filthy roid cheat. Looked bad against Diaz, Katsidis, and then became Superman after he enrolled in Memo's sophisticated doping program. Karma got his cheating ass. Dude still trying to plan a comeback after 3 years, but the health injuries from extreme doping forever changed him.
Pacquiao's a belt holder and is fighting 4 years later and became a lineal champ in a record five weight classes. Meanwhile, the drugs destroyed JMM's system. Dude has been clawing his way back unsuccessfully for 3+ years now trying to drain Cotto while ducking Rios/Mikey/Broner.
But Cotto was campaigning @ 147. Cotto hasn't been at 147 since 2009. You're not THAT ******ed, are you?
Yeah and Marquez has never campained @ Jr Welter. but even offered to fight Cotto at 148. Cotto declined. Are you going to continue your hypocrisy? Or is it simple idiocy?
In their own series they came out even 2-2, 2-1-1 if you believe the official scores. Against their three common opponents Pac did as well or better. H2H Pac is better. Pac was stronger and faster. Marquez had better technique.
If you scored the series 2-2 you can't then make a serious case that Pac was better H2H, especially when he got KTFO. IMO JMM won at least 3 of the fights(which seems to be the consensus) and based on everything I stated in my original post stand by my conviction that he is H2H the better fighter.