Best fight right now - winner of Joyce vs Zhang against Hrgovic

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  1. dragansimic22

    dragansimic22 Member banned Full Member

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    Joyce threw a suprise at us by geting into fight with Zhang, very risky fight for him. He showed balls, like a true contender (unlike Wilder, Joshua, Ruiz and the others who are gloryfied in this forum). Joyce will probably win vs Zhang, he can confirm that win with Hrgovic (who he had beaten in amateurs). If Zhang wins, he can get that rematch with Hrgovic. Makes sense, and we would have same mandatory interim champs in IBO and WBO, a man worthy of heavyweight championship (unlike Joshua and Wilder).
     
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    Well, Hrgovic-Zhang was good, but it wasn't the best fight ever. Doubt a rematch will top the first. Joyce walks through and bludgeons Filip senseless. So I disagree.
     
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    They already fought, he didnt walk through
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    It was competitive, but that was because it was only a 5 rd fight, you could tell Hrgovic was struggling with the pace. Joyce lost the early rounds like he often does in fights as he's a slow starter and it takes a few rounds for the crazy pace he sets to have an effect on his opponent.

    I'd very confidently pick Joyce to beat Hrgovic based on that fight. Joyce backed him up throughout and walked through Hrgovic's best shots like they were nothing. Hrgovic would get ground down and stopped. He can't win on points as he can't match the work rate of Joyce or has the boxing ability to keep Joyce off him and he doesn't have the power to hurt Joyce.
     
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  5. CST80

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    I know, I've seen it twice, and echo everything @Brighton bomber says.
     
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    Hrgovic was not struggling with the pace, wdym? If Hrgovic was british and if this was called a robbery, it would be. He lost most of the rounds and got hit a lot more. Backing someone means nothing, Hrgovic wasnt infighter in this match. These matjches have rules, I think it was 2 downs and it is GG, what do you mean when he was grounded and stopped? The last part I agree with, but also Hrgovic was young here vs prime age Joyce, now it would be different story, maybe for worse or better. The point I am trying to make is that this FIGHT SHOULD HAPPEN, I just dont understand why all of you british Joyce fans dont want it, if Hrgovic is easy, Joyce should try to eat him, eazy pizy.
     
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    Sorry, then you are stupid. You said Joyce was going to walk trough him and bludgeones him sensles - meaning early K.O. WIN. This fight shows how close decision was this, even with Joyce in his prime against younger opponent. If Hrgovic was british, this would have been called a robbery.
     
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  8. ikrasevic

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    We have already watched the Hrgović-Zhang fight. Joyce-Hrgović would be more interesting. The winner of Joyce-Zhang vs: Fury, Usyk, Joshua, Wilder, Ruiz (in that order) would be even more interesting.
     
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    Joyce vs. Hrgovic would be great, but very likely Joyce has no interest in that fight because he is aiming for bigger fights...
     
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    Fair enough.
     
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    How nice, you start tossing out insults for no apparent reason. Calm the **** down, this discussion certainly doesn't call for them. If I thought Joyce was going to KO him, I would say that. But I did not say that, now did I? I said Joyce bludgeons him senseless, which means it could be a prolonged 12 round bludgeoning senseless. But if you want me to specify, I think Joyce would start slow, work into it, take over by the 4th or 5th round and stop him by the 9th.
     
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    If Joyce wins, he can attack Fury by deal, but knowing Fury he is a ducking champion right now, or would want AJ first. Joyces win against Zhang would give him only "fame points", he still could not attack Usyk belts because mandatory order is WBA (Dubois) then Hrgovic (IBF), if he doesnt want to wait he can do 2 things (he 38 yo I think) - attack Wilder for nb1. spots on WBC and WBA or attack Hrgovic for nb spot in IBF making him the next mandatory to usyk, if he wins. All depends if he wants that belt and be a champion, or he wants to risk the belt for more money.
     
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    Joshua to duck the winners and the losers and go after a Franklin rematch.
     
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    Dont try to play word games now, what you said implys not only K.O. but an early dominating (not lucky punch Wilder-Helensky but more like Mike Tyon vs somebody) K.O. To you new "opinion", if he could not do that in his prime, how could he do it now?
     
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    No one is playing word games, you goddamn lunatic. I don't have a new opinion I said Joyce walks through Filip and bludgeons him senseless. Joet Gonzalez bludgeoned Vivas senseless for 10 rounds on Saturday. I'm pretty well known for saying early KO if I think that's going to happen, I did not say that was going to happen so don't put any ****ing words in my mouth. For the record, that certainly wasn't a lucky punch that Wilder landed, and for what it's worth, I said Wilder would win that match by KO1.
     
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