Best Fighter By Country?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by salsanchezfan, Jan 8, 2011.


  1. Bobby Sinn

    Bobby Sinn Bulimba Bullant Full Member

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    Fenech?? He does not compare to Rose for a start.

    Yes, he won three versions of World titles, but he was not rated #1 in any of the divisions he picked up titles in, nor did he tackle any #1 rated men in the divisions of which he was fighting.

    Lionel Rose tackled Takao Sakurai, Chu Cho Castillo, Alan Rudkin and Rubin Olivares during assaults on his title. Now, take a look at each man ranking in the bantamweight division in the month leading up to the title shot. Yes, Lionel's resume shits on that of Fenech. Had fenech unified a division, I'd give him a lot more credit.

    Fine, Fenech was a vicious fighter blah blah blah.. He'd not have lasted past the 5th round at Bantam against Lionel.
     
  2. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    I think Fenech is slightly underrated, but I would rate Rose over him.
     
  3. Bobby Sinn

    Bobby Sinn Bulimba Bullant Full Member

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    Griffo, Darcy, Richards, Palmer, Carroll, Sands, Rose and Famechon.

    Each of the I'd rate above Fenech. Amazing how Fenech started getting the **** belted out of him when he faught guys his own physical size.
     
  4. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    scotland benny lynch
    england lennox lewis
    wales jimmy wilde
    brazil eder jofre
    usa sugar ray robinson
    france marcel cerdan
     
  5. Bobby Sinn

    Bobby Sinn Bulimba Bullant Full Member

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    Bahamas- Elisha Obed
    New Zealand- David Tua
    Argentina- Monzon
     
  6. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He has not been mentioned yet, but Fitzsimmons could be the best figther from Australia, New Zealand, England or even USA, depending on your eligibility rules.

    As far as Australia goes, if Fitz isnt eligible, i think it is pretty much accepted that Darcy is the pound for pound guru. Most Australians at the time, thought he was pretty much a cut above Harry Greb and he very well might be.
     
  7. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Take it easy will ya. I only threw his name in. Its not as if its completely absurd.
     
  8. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You need to understand how Manny would fight under the same conditions as his peers. Could be as good as Elorde or Villa if he was fighting 60+ rounds a year, rather than 12/24? Could he compete with less notice, less time to train? Could he go 15+ rounds and still be up there with Villa and Elorde?

    Maybe he can, maybe not, we will probably never know, because as I pointed out, Elorde and Villa fought in basically a different sport.
     
  9. D.T

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    South africa??
     
  10. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Vic Toweel edges out Brian Mitchell and Pierre Fourie, IMO.
     
  11. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You've done the research, have you? Tell us a bit about his up-bringing, if you don't mind.
     
  12. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol:Yes, because Rose was such a viscious puncher, right?
     
  13. Bobby Sinn

    Bobby Sinn Bulimba Bullant Full Member

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    You obviously over estimate Fenech, and underestimate Lionel Rose. Listen goose, if you know Fenech resume' at Bantam and think he'd survive against Lionel, you're a moron. Chin or body, Rose would take both.
     
  14. Bobby Sinn

    Bobby Sinn Bulimba Bullant Full Member

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    I was responding to me mate Patto, but yes, it is completely absurd.
     
  15. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Don't mind Bobby guys, he owned a green grocer once and a watch store after that.