Best Fighter Turned Referee?

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  1. SquareRing

    SquareRing Member Full Member

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    So, who are some good fighters who also became good referees?

    I don't have the numbers on me, but I have a feeling that it was also more common a while back (say, before the 70's), whereas now, I can't really think of too many fighters who become referees after they retire.
     
  2. alexvoce

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    joe louis

    close thread
     
  3. doug.ie

    doug.ie 'Classic Boxing Society' Full Member

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    benny leonard...its how he died.

    jersey joe walcott

    ruby goldstien was a top class boxer
     
  4. The Old School

    The Old School New Member Full Member

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    Jack Dempsey was pretty cool as a referee - dealt with poor behaviour from fighters by getting them in the ring himself and knocking the blue blazes out of them.
     
  5. i dont know how good a referee walcott was in the second liston-ali fight
     
  6. doug.ie

    doug.ie 'Classic Boxing Society' Full Member

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    :yep


    "what now??....i cant hear you....eh??....what??....hang on....i'll come over...."

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  7. srsly, m8 ,
    4 1 important fight like this ,
    u got to put 1 experienced ref .
    not walcott .
     
  8. Lobotomy

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    As a referee, Jack Sharkey made one of the greatest and riskiest calls in officiating history for Moore-Durelle I. Archie was flattened in the opening round with what he described as the hardest single punch he was ever hit by, then dropped two more times before those three minutes were up. Jack saw that his eyes were crossed, but elected to allow the Mongoose to continue, permitting one of the most legendary comebacks in all of sporting history to take place. When Archie passed, this is the win he was memorialized for by all news reports. Today, a modern skittish and paranoid referee like Joey Curtis would have stopped the proceedings before Moore-Durelle I ever had a chance to become the fabled epic which entered into pugilistic folklore. Jack also refereed the rematch, and again permitted a satisfying and conclusive result to occur. If Sharkey had been the third man in the ring at Lewiston, Fleischer's histrionic antics may not have tainted the outcome.

    With the controversial high profile fatalities which took place in the early 1980s, Jack extensively discussed his decision to let Moore-Durelle I go on, and was widely quoted in the newspapers. I remember thinking at the time that Weaver-Dokes I would have been far more revealing if Sharkey had been in charge instead of Curtis. Jeffries, Dempsey, Max Baer, Louis and Walcott were other former heavyweight champions who became referees, but I contend that Sharkey's manly officiating in Montreal was the best of most importance.
     
  9. doug.ie

    doug.ie 'Classic Boxing Society' Full Member

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    add marciano to the list of heavyweight champs turned refs (he did a world title in 65 too)

    great post lobotomy
     
  10. SquareRing

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    Lobotomy: Great post and thanks for the info.

    Knowing when to stop a fight can be very tricky, especially when someone gets flattened a couple of times in a single round. I wonder, if having a background as a fighter makes it easier for referees?
     
  11. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Probably the most renowned referee in history was also a fighter. His name was Arthur Donavan who refereed 14 world heavyweight championship bouts...
     
  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    :lol:

    I do.

    On a scale of 1-10?

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  13. Lobotomy

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    One would expect this should be the case. However, Ruby Goldstein was involved in three high profile failures. In June 1952, he succumbed to the heat in the tenth round of Maxim-Robinson, should have halted Johansson-Patterson I when Floyd turned away from Ingo after getting up from the first knockdown in June 1952 (just as Sharkey-Loughran I was immediately stopped by Lou Magnolia in September 1929, and Baer-Schmeling by Arthur Donovan in June 1933), and of course the Griffith-Paret III disaster in March 1962, which was so devastating to live televised boxing. Maxim-SRR and Griffith-Paret III are indeed a part of Goldstein's IBHOF profile, and Ingo-Patterson I made it clear that sooner or later a fatality was likely to occur under his supervision, whether or not Paret lived to fight another day.
     
  14. doug.ie

    doug.ie 'Classic Boxing Society' Full Member

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    joe cortez had a pro record of 18-1 !!
     
  15. SquareRing

    SquareRing Member Full Member

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    Wow, that I did not know.