Best fighter you’d favour Primo Carnera over?

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  1. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    It’s also a fact that the power of some punchers around 188-194 like Schmeling, just don’t have P4P power. Sure, Schmeling has a knack for stopping famously durable fighters who were his own size, but we still have no proof that Max is capable of taking down 270 pound giants like Carnera. A lot of significant punchers at one weight turn out to not be significant punchers in another, and this kind of weight advantage absolutely does have a telling effect on durability when compared to 190 pounders that Schmeling battered.

    Maybe Herr Max can get it done, you bring up some good points and Carnera’s defense isn’t superb, but imo that requires proof that he’s had success against fighters of Primo’s size in the past. I just don’t know if his power or overall ability translates well against a man who outweighs him by nearly 80 pounds
     
  2. Pedro_El_Chef

    Pedro_El_Chef Active Member Full Member

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    It's the opposite. Schmeling, for his size and weight, punched a lot harder than he'd be expected to.

    What is there to doubt? A guy like Schmeling could hurt what he could hit. He was the same size as Dempsey and 5-10 lbs lighter than Louis. Schmeling would hardly be the only 190 pounder whose power was enough to fell anybody. Satterfield was another such person.

    The fighters Schmeling knocked out were deemed the most durable even though they were competing in an open division where large men could compete alongside them. Risko and Stribling weren't the most durable 190 pounders around, they were the most durable heavyweights around, period.

    While a larger man can often times take punches better than a lighter man, when going up against an accurate puncher like Schmeling, being a slower, more awkward target is a disadvantage. The reason I pick Schmeling with confidence while I didn't pick Shavers in the previous thread was because of stamina and skill. Schmeling had an abundance of both, and no matter how well Carnera stood up to the punches initially, Max would keep pouring in repeatedly and accurately, and would at least look to the judges to be the more effective fighter even if Primo survived to the end.
     
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  3. mcvey

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    Schmeling dropped Risko 3 times and the Rubber Man had to be carried out,the only other man to stop Risko was Tony Musto when Risko was 38 years old.

    Max's best punch was his right hand, Carnera was a sucker for right hands.He stops Primo whose chin was crap.
     
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  4. Totentanz.

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    Simply put, Schmeling threw above his weight, and Carnera took below his weight.
     
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  5. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    Y e l l o w - today we will be discussing Carnera’s mutant physique.
     
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  6. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Today we would be calling him a juicer
     
  7. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    He had a literal deformity. It invokes sadness to see knowing it caused him so much pain.
     
  8. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Wouldn’t stop the internet from making 90 threads about Primo being on the sauce
     
  9. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    I think most people can see the guy has “something” wrong. Similar to Andre The Giant or someone like that.
     
  10. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Over fifteen with more old-school referee? The light to average punchers who relied on boxing their way to a decision. Take your pick, bar the true virtuoso.
     
  11. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    YELLOW - Primo Carnera entered the flow state, invoking the spirit of Conor McGregor, when he KOd David Tua. How? It has to do with the no-mind chi control of Musashi Miyamoto.
     
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  12. JohnThomas1

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    Cobb and Primo are just a little bit different tho.
     
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  13. Totentanz.

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    Just a tad.
     
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  14. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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  15. newurban99

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    Schmeling was methodical and strategic. We know how he studied Louis and planned his attack. He would attempt to do the same with Primo. Sharkey had a good right hand punch but didn't knock Da Preem out. I think it's an even matchup that draws a huge crowd in New York, Rome or Berlin. They were contemporary Europeans. Why did they never fight?