Right around the time I joined the site in the summer of '04, one of the first threads I started was this very topic, which I decided to revisit now as we've had almost complete turnover since then. Drew and Johnthomas probably remember the original. Here, in order, is my list of the top ten fighters of that wild and wonderful decade, the 1980's......... 1.... Sugar Ray Leonard: with victories other highly ranked entrants, he has to be considered number one. 2.... Marvin Hagler: The very model of consistency. 3... Julio Cesar Chavez: Titles in three weight classes and dominant in nearly every fight in the decade. Only Laporte gave him a close call. 4... Michael Spinks: Dominant light heavy who made history by being the guy to finally upend the heavyweight champ as light heavy boss. 5... Thomas Hearns: I could completely understand the argument for placing him above Spinks. Four titles will do that for a fella. 6... Mike Tyson: Don't particularly like him, but he was as dominant as they got in that decade. 7... Salvador Sanchez: Gunned down two legends and a future HOF'er in the span of two and a half years. 8... Jeff Fenech: Another three-division champ. 9...Jeff Chandler: Fearsome bantam champ who compiled quite a list of title defense. Could box or punch. 10...Larry Holmes: I pick someone like Chandler over Holmes because all his good work happened within the confines of these ten years. Holmes had already set quite a foundation for his greatness by the time the 70's ended, and I have to admit he took the last part of his reign rather easy. Now.......let's pick this ***** apart. :smoke
Fantastic list really. Leonard, Chavez, Tyson (late start but oh so dominant) and Spinks (for some reason always in the bottom 5 or even 2 or 3!) beautifully placed. Personally i'd have Holmes around 4 or 5, Chandler, a fighter i like a lot, just out of the 10, Arguello might just sneak in, and Nelson might get there too but who do you leave out! I like Fenech getting his due too. People like Pedroza, Chandler, Duran, Fenech, Nelson, Arguello, Chandler, Pryor, Gomez and Myung-Woo Yuh make the bottom places terribly congested for picking. Great list, and welcome back.
Junior Fly...Jung-Koo Chang, Hilario Zapata Flyweight...Hilario Zapata, Santos Laciar, Sot Chitalada, Fidel Bassa Super Fly...Rafael Orono, Jiro Watanabe, Khaosai Ghalaxy, Gilberto Roman, Santos Laciar, Nana Konadu bantamweight...Jeff Chandler, Miguel Lora, Lupe Pintor, Jibaro Perez, Alberto Davila, Jeff Fenech, Canizales brothers Super Bantam....Wilfredo Gomez, Jeff Fenech Featherweight...Sal Sanchez, Azumah Nelson, Eusebio Pedroza, Ruben Castillo, Rocky Lockridge, Barry McGuigan, Antonio Esparragoza Junior Lightweight.....Limon, Chacon, Boza Edwards, Rolando Navarette, Chung-il Choi, Hector Camacho, Azumah Nelson, Julio Cesar Chavez, Brian Mitchell Lightweight... Arguello, Camacho, Jose Luis Ramirez, JC-Chavez, Ray Mancini, Livingstone Bramble, Edwin Rosario Junior Welter...Saoul Mamby, Roger Mayweather, Aaron Pryor, Alexis Arguello Welterweight...Duran, Leonard, Hearns, McCrory, Curry, Starling, Honeyghan, Simon Brown, Mark Breland Junior Middleweight...Maurice Hope, Wilfred Benitez, Hearns, Gianfranco Rosi, Ayub Kalule, Ray Leonard, Davey Moore, Duran, Mike McCallum, Julian Jackson, John Mugabi Middleweight....Marvin Hagler, Leonard, Hearns, Barkley, Duran, Minter, Sibson, hamsho, Herol Graham, Sumbu Kalambay, Mike McCallum, Michael Nunn, Nigel Benn Super Middleweight...Chong-Pal Park, Lindell Holmes, Hearns, Leonard, OBelmeijas....not much depth here at all really Light Heavyweight....Saad, Qawi, Michael Spinks, Eddie Davis, Dennis Andries, Jeff Harding, Eddie Gregory, Marvin Johnson, Virgil Hill, Prince Charles Williams Cruiser...Carlos Deleon, Qawi, Evander Holyfield Heavy..Larry Holmes and Mike Tyson...then Mike Spinks and all the WBC and WBA paper champions.
Thanks John, nice to see ya again. I thought about Arguello as well, but decided after some consideration to leave him off the list, as his real work was done mostly in the 70's, and was finished by 1982. In the 80's he had victories over Watt and Mancini for highlights. Not quite enough to get him there, at least for me. Nelson is right in that zip code too. He could just as easily have qualified, but as you say, who gets removed form the list?
.........Impressive list; if you had to compress it though, to just ten, regardless of weight class........
Sal do you count 1980 as the 80's? I did and then we have Arguello over Castillo, Navarette and Boza as well. We also then have Duran's (like Arguello, peak and loads of resume in the 70's) win over Leonard, tho i think his many losses and inconsistencies in the 80's make him hard to place, whether in the bottom 3 or outside. Pintor too is in the 15, forgot him earlier.
I'm no good at top ten lists. That said, i'd say you got most of the main contenders in your own.The only one i would really disagree with is Chandler, who i don't think proved nearly enough in comparison to the other bantam champions of the era,that also had similar careers.Fenech possibly as well. I would put Chang in there instead.He was very much the best little man of the decade, despite never fighting at Fly during his prime.At one point he had defeated every one of the reigning Flyweight champions anyway.
..............Hmmm.........Yes. I am counting 1980, and had forgotten about those fights for Arguello. That does narow the gap some. Still, he is excluded. :bart Duran I dismissed altogether. WAY too inconsistent in the 80's to warrant serious consideration.
Yeah, I hate lists too, actually. The first time around this one started such a fun ****-throwing contest between Achilles and Rooster that I thought it worth rekindling. Chang is a good choice too. To be frank, I hedged on Chandler in favor of either him or Galaxy, but sort of mentally flipped a coin.
I knew i would have missed a few. Whitaker i am guessing.He belongs of course.I tend to end up remembering him strictly as a nineties fighter, which of course was not the case.
Fair enough, but he must be damn close!!!! I'd seriously consider him myself, he did beat your number 1 after all, as well as picking up titles in three divisions. 7 losses in the 80's, with wins over Leonard, Moore and Barkley. I agree tho, misses the 10 for me, but very narrowly. One of the single greatest wins of the 80's keeps him close.
Azumah Nelson could possibly make the top ten he had a lot od good wins in the 80's he went 32-1 which is a good record.