Best filmed display of boxing skill by decade

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  1. Hannibal Barca

    Hannibal Barca Active Member Full Member

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    I am curious what this forum's opinions are on the best filmed boxing performance exhibited by a boxer in each of the last 11+ decades. For example, completely off the top of my head:

    1900s Gans vs Herman
    1910s Dempsey vs Willard
    1920s Leonard vs Tendler
    1930s Armstrong vs Ross
    1940s Pep vs Walton???
    1950s Robinson vs Lamotta
    1960s Ali vs Williams
    1970s Duran vs Esteban III
    1980s Duran vs Leonard
    1990s Jones vs Toney
    2000s Mayweather vs Corrales
    2010s Mayweather vs Guerrero

    I haven't watched nearly as much footage as Klompton, Mendoza, Stonehands, and a dozen others on this board, so I'm grateful for whatever insights you can provide.
     
  2. thistle1

    thistle1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    there was footage of Theo Medina vs Jackie Paterson on youtube a few years ago, very good.

    Canzoneri vs Glick, Lynch vs Brown, some South African footage of Johnny Ralph - the film is more than good enough to get 'a proper' glimpse of just how good about half a dozen or so some second tier fighters really were.

    there is some proper looking footage out there proving these old eras were just as good... and it only takes one piece of film to prove it anyway .

    quite simply if the fighters in it are good, great or very good, it proves that ALL their 'top' peers were too, in spite of miles & miles of
    s h i t e footage.
     
  3. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jones? That was more athletic talent against a near-dead Toney.

    For sublime technical precision, Toney's performance against Barkley might be the best of ANY decade.
     
  4. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In the 80s Id be very tempted to place Kalambay-McCallum over Duran-Leonard.
     
  5. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The first half of the 90s had more complete masterclasses than any period I can think of

    Toney-Barkley
    Douglas-Tyson
    McGirt-Brown
    McCallum-Watson
    Whitaker-Chavez
    Jones-Pazienza
    Whitaker-McGirt II
    Eubank-Jarvis/Giminez/Rocchigiani/Wharton
    Hamed-Robinson
     
  6. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And then you haven't even mentioned Holyfiled-Bowe, McCallum-Toney 1&2 and McCallum-Kalambay 2.
     
  7. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Chavez-Rosario is the best filmed example of infighting.

    A fight like Jones-Paz is just a mismatch of a true super middle against a roided up Guido lightweight. Nothing special about it beyond that.
     
  8. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Close, two-way battles of skill, not one guy mastering another completely and schooling him.
     
  9. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Robinson-Galivan I and Eubank-Watson I were classical two-way chess matches.
     
  10. Jester

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    1900's: Gangs-Herman
    1910's: Dempsey-Willard
    1920's: Tunney-Dempsey I
    1930's: Schmeling-Louis I
    1940's Cerdan-Zale maybe?
    1950's: Robinson-Gavilan
    1960's: Pastrano-Johnson
    1970's: Ali-Foreman
    1980's: Lots of good candidates here. I'll go with Duran-Leonard I
    1990's: Toney-Barkley
    2000's: Hopkins-Pavlik
    2010's: Not sure. Maybe Mayweather-Alvarez
     
  11. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Does one piece of tape prove that? What if the only tape you had was of Buster Douglas beating Tyson? That's neither representative of Douglas nor Tyson. It's a career best performance for Douglas, and then you go to his record and see all the guys who beat him, and you go "He wasn't even that good! How much better must everyone else be?"

    I think that the limited amount of tape limits the amount of conclusions one can properly draw from said tape.
     
  12. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mayweather-Gatti was unbelievable. People seem to forget that one. Gatti was even favoured! This was the last time Mayweather threw combinations, and boy did he let those hands go wonderfully - bunches of pin-point power punches in clusters to the body and head, at speed and timed just right.
     
  13. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Likewise, Barkley was favoured over Toney!
     
  14. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ok, so that's the criteria. But then Duran-Leonard doesn't qualify either.
     
  15. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good point. Kalambay-McCallum would be my choice, Duran-Moore is up there and so is Nunn-Tate and Watson-Benn, and to a lesser extent Chavez-Rosario, Sanchez-Gomez, Camacho-Ramirez, Curry-McCrory, and Starling-Honeyghan.